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the "top of the line bleeding edge" is a porsche 918, not a tesla. p85's are nice but let's not kid ourselves here.

Oh come on now. I can fit my entire family in a Model S (with luggage) and still do 0-60 on 2.8 seconds. That is, by definition, bleeding edge.

At this point a Porsche is a glorified garage queen.

EDIT: A Porsche 918 MSRP is almost $845K and it's only 0.6 seconds faster than the Model S (P85D). They've made less than 1000 units.

are you new to the car scene? you sound exactly like a car forum troll from the 90s. like word for word.

I'm 32 and male. I'm from the practical scene, not the car scene.

right. not a car guy, yet you're on the internet arguing about cars, which is awfully strange.

the vast majority of vehicles are, wait for it, bought by people who are not car guys.

This... isn't a car forum. Excuse me, but are you lost or something?