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I'm surprised this is news.

If only because of the massive anti-(cigarette)-smoking campaign of the past several years, combined with the massive pro-marijuana-legalization campaign. Good or bad, that sends a pretty clear message to students that tobacco bad, marijuana good.

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Do they realize the joint/spliff they are smoking is filled up with way more tobacco than marijuana ? (or do they smoke fully loaded joint ?)

edit: I don't understand the downvote but to clarify things: in Europe, where I live, I seldom saw fully loaded joint (which would be called the same: joint or blunt).

Yea, except the fact that it does not have the addictive elements of nicotine and those same students do not smoke 20 joints per day. But now you also have edibles and vaporizers too.

Is there any talk about the quality or characteristics of the paper used to fabricate the joint ?

contribution from the paper is de minimis

Some papers incorporate talk into their branding.

"Natural unrefined paper" "100% rice paper" "Natural hemp gum"

TIL a joint can contain tobacco.

In Denmark (and I think most of Europe?) joints usually have tobacco in them, though apparently that's less common in the US.

Yes, in Europe it is very common to mix tobacco with your weed/hashish when rolling joints.

Yuck.

Some people did, but for the most part growing up in southern california it was just all weed, and usually smoked in a bong or pipe or something else made with glass.

Blunts were popular though, so that might negate some of it.

as a user, marijuana is definitely good. ive never smoked cigarettes, so I can't say how "good" they are. i just know they don't get me high.

The best part of marijuana is the lack of addiction.

I know some people who can't get by without dabs several times a day. Either it is addicting to some people or they are self medicating some other issue?

There's a difference between "can't" and "don't like to", they aren't going to suffer from any severe withdrawal effects from not having it other than simply not liking being sober. Caffeine withdrawal is far worse for example. Of course if they're using it for something like pain relief, or some other medical reason like you said, that doesn't really count as addiction.

I mean, find a substance that people CAN'T be addicted to. However, the physiological addiction is very low. There is no direct dopamine feedback loop, to my understanding.

I'm addicted to seltzer waters.

It's not completely free from addiction potential, it's similar in degree to caffeine[1]. Dabs are very concentrated, and if you hit them several times a day many days in a row, and you are naturally inclined toward addiction, you may find yourself addicted.

AFAIK the withdrawal symptoms aren't unbearable, nothing like stimulants or opiates or benzos. I'm sure that getting high sounds a lot more attractive than sitting through the withdrawal for 36 hours or however long it lasts, and that the withdrawal would impair the user infinitely more than the cannabis.

[1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psilocybin#/media/File:Drug_...

Great chart. Thanks.

Well, independent of whether marijuana is minimally addictive or not, it can certainly be habit-forming (which can be just as significant as a "real" addiction).

But not a lack of psychological addiction.

ha well, as a long-time user i assure you there is addiction, both physical and psychological. if i stop for any length of time i dont sleep as well and i sweat alot more.

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