Vinyl LP Frenzy Brings Record-Pressing Machines Back to Life
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So, it's not like $1000 cables scams etc, where the results are identical.
Now, the subjective part is whether this "warmer" sound is better than the more accurate (better fidelity) high quality digital sound.
For a lot of people, it is -- same way as we tend to like "saturated" images more, despite their colors not being true to the original.
(Of course I'm speaking in general -- if you, mr. outlier, doesn't like saturated pictures, this doesn't apply to your statistical noise self. Not everything is about you.).
Then there's the crackle and static that some (fewer) people also like, but I'm sticking to the basic vinyl "color" here.
The processing is reversed on playback in the preamp, but there's always a mismatch between the source EQ and the preamp EQ, so there's always some tonal distortion. And because the bass gets boosted so much there's added waveform distortion which increases with bass frequencies and makes the bass thicker.
Many turntables also have pitch instabilities.
Hence "vinyl sound."
So no - it's not even remotely accurate. Add scratches, crackles, and pops, groove deterioration - the needle causes enough friction to melt the plastic in the groove - and other artefacts, and it's really more of a lifestyle/collector thing than anything to do with accuracy.
Personally I have enough physical stuff already, and I want less, not more. So being able to store all my music on a hard drive in FLAC format makes me thankful the industry moved beyond vinyl.
In fact one of the hottest selling audio plugin categories are "tape saturation" (which mimic 2-inch tape distortions, not that far from mimicking vinul).
E.g.: https://www.u-he.com/cms/satin
When it comes to vinyl, there's also other factors: the patina (crackle) etc, adds connection to the times you've played the record, the fragility and tactile feel, plus it's a physical, collectible artifact. Plus, at least for now, the fashion factor.
While a audio-file collection will be useless in 20 years (already is with things like Spotify giving access to most music), a good condition LP will mostly increase in price. In 50 years? A current pressing could be worth $200 or more (especially since most bands do small 1000 units or less vinul pressings).
Also, Spotify doesn't give you the same quality sound as an audiofile collection of CDs, due to compression
I think one way to see it is that it being in vinyl (with all the romantic, old-music-industry, analog etc ideas it conveys) is also part of the signal.
As in, the signal is not the pure musical signal, but also the cultural one (the vinyl being emotional, nostalgic, romanticized, fashionished, fetishised, etc).
>Also, Spotify doesn't give you the same quality sound as an audiofile collection of CDs, due to compression
That's just a matter of time and better broadband connections. For most people, given their speakers/headphones quality, it's more than enough.
There's also the joy and relaxation of kicking back and watching the vinyl spin on the table whilst playing, it's mesmerizing and hypnotic.
If you still don't get it then you probably also don't get why people run vintage/classic cars (why bother when - to paraphrase - you can get the same things as running a modern compact saloon as well - both get you from A to B, the modern compact probably more reliably so) or operate steam engines or collect stamps.
In my home office I have a fully working refurbished GPO model 746 rotary dial telephone [0][1], I use it all the time if I'm sitting at my desk. Sure I have a DECT and VOIP handsets that do many more and very clever things but I enjoy using that old phone. I like "dialing" numbers on the rotary dialer, I like the sound of its ring, I like the clunk as I replace the handset, I like the faint click it makes when you lift the handset. It's also ergonomically better than most modern phones because the handset part fits better around my neck and chin so I can talk away and have both hands on my keyboard.
I'm mostly a functionalist (to quote coldtea) but there are little things in life I enjoy for their aesthetic (as I perceive it) and nostalgic pleasures, in particular electronics and audio kit from the 70's (I was born in the late 60's :) )
[0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GPO_telephones#Type_746
[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GPO_telephones#/media/File:GPO...
Another reason for me at least is that a lot of the vinyl I buy is directly from bands at their shows. In that case I'm getting the souvenir and I'm giving back something directly to the artists. It might just be gas money to get to the next town, but it's more than they'll ever see from Spotify.
What is art's core utility?
No, but it can still be quite pleasant. Same way we like saturated constrasty pics or even distorted guitars.
>Personally I have enough physical stuff already, and I want less, not more.
OTOH, a vinyl collection makes for a nice rustic touch to a mostly empty, mostly-digital, minimalist house.
Vinyl use (or often just purchase and displat) has become the mark of someone who takes music seriously / passionately. My experience is that many people, especially the young like to signal that way.
Vinyl is fun for lots of reasons, but it is not a superior format for storing audio, just like $10,000 HDMI cables and magic audiophile crystals are not improvements.
A lot of the smaller labels, and some of the larger ones, will do a vinyl specific master that hasn't gone through this compression process and has the full dynamics of the original recording. Even with the coloration, I find these almost always sound better than the lower dynamic range versions. So, basically, despite vinyl being an inferior format, humans have managed to fuck things up enough that it can sound better in spite of being a bad physical medium for audio.
Totally unrelated to the format itself though, but just a thought as to why I buy some of my favorite older records on vinyl because they "sound better".
The 'niche' collecting part of vinyl records is really interesting and I wish someone would do a good story on that instead of the "vinyl's not dead!" approach.
(self plug: I wrote/run https://gripsweat.com which tracks auctions and sales so if you're curious about high-dollar niche records it's a good listening / browsing resource.)
(OP and avid film shooter/Apple Music listener)
When I first noticed these, I thought, wow, it's crazy that someone had to mark up all these individual records as they were pressed. I can't believe how long that must have taken. Then I realized, obviously, that the master record had the original markings, and that entire record was stamped into the production run, including those hand-written markings. So some record engineer's handwriting survived onto thousands or millions of duplicated records, decades into the future, into my living room, where I noticed them. Neat! I wonder who that guy was...
I love finding old records that used to be my grandpa's. Seeing his handwriting on the records on liner notes makes me feel like i'm sharing the experience with him. Digital can never replicate that.
A PORKY PRIME CUT.
What nonsense, I hope he was misquoted.. Like the linked video says, he bought them in Chicago from Joell Hays, another vinyl junkie (and all-around nice guy) that held on to them for a decade, but couldn't get the funds together to restore them all.
I can't understand why every story about vinyl's resurgence needs to make the story into some sort of mythic "rediscovery". My label's been putting out vinyl for years, the only difference is that now there's a 6-month waiting list at the plant. :)
Even in the few months since I decided to buy a replacement for my previous equipment I saw the number of models proliferate.
In the end I went for the Ion Air [1] - a turntable with USB and Bluetooth output, what a crazy idea!
They announced it at CES [2] and I have it on back order so I can't comment on its quality. But it also has line-in -> Bluetooth which was the final selling point for me. I already have a Sony BM10 [3] hooked up to my amp [4].
Even though I've been in tech since the 70's, it's still remarkable that my hi-fi stack is smaller than an 8 Track tape!
[1] http://www.ionaudio.com/products/details/airlp
[2] http://www.ionaudio.com/news/press-releases/new-ion-air-lp-b...
[3] http://www.aptx.com/product-low-latency/sony-bluetoothr-musi...
[4] http://www.amazon.com/Danibos-TA2021B-Integrated-Tripath-Amp...
Let me know if you have questions about the format, I run a small tape label (scalatapes.bandcamp.com).
1. The ambient scene: http://fangsandarrows.com/ was a great community, similar to HN crowd. Serious people. Not sure if it's down for good, here's their bandcamp: https://fangsandarrows.bandcamp.com/
2. Vaporwave: If you don't know it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaporwave here's a label https://dreamcatalogue.bandcamp.com/
3. Post-punk / post rock / synth pop (the dark stuff like John Maus) etc. Concrete basement shows etc.
https://opaltapes.bandcamp.com/ is a great label (I really like Huerco S. and Basic House)
What's your email address? Email me first if you prefer to stay anonymous - My email is in my profile :)
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Do you find this is why most artists first choose to record to cassette, or is it because of other things like easier/cheaper distribution?
I'd pop a tape into a boom box, record the rhythm guitar part with my little "headphone amp" routed to the aux-in, then rewind. Plug a headphone cable in and split it so the right channel went to headphones and the left channel went into the left aux-in on the second boom box. That way I could record the leads or other parts while listening to the rhythm over headphones.
You could bounce back and forth a couple of times as long as you had some stereo-to-mono adapters but quality degraded quickly. Still, I was a teenager with a $100 guitar, some old boom boxes, and a lot of time.
Still, I can't imagine cassette is easier or cheaper to record and distribute compared to digital or even CD-R today. I'm guessing it has as much to do with "novelty" (which is funny to say about deliberate anachronism) as ease/cost of distribution.
That said, if people dig it, then more power to them. I like picking up vinyl records at Goodwill because they're 4 for a dollar and sometimes I find something that ends up being pretty interesting. I also buy vinyl new releases sometimes because there's something more psychologically pleasing about getting a "thing" for your money instead of a file that could just as easily be duplicated infinitely. I really like how vinyl often comes with a digital download code so I still get a 256-320k/sec mp3 copy for portability and convenience but I also get the big cover art and something tangible. Album art really is something I miss about physical media and vinyl 33's are large enough to offer great, big cover art.
1. A lot artists don't incorporate cassette into the workflow much. Usually people do what they do with a DAW or go to a studio to record. Cassette is mostly used as medium (like CD, vinyl etc). But yes, I do have friends who record directly on cassette. This will sound very rough though (depending on setup), too much even for some lo-fi aficionados.
2. Hipster points. Tapes are very "in" right now. Don't disregard this point. Just like networking is sometimes seen as a sacrifice of your "humanity", so is hipsterism. This is not so. Like it or not, sometimes it's important to go with the flow and play the field.
3. Easy/cheap to make. You do have to record in real-time which sucks when duplicating tapes, but other than that it's way easier to do a few tapes than to go vinyl.
4. People like supporting artists. This can be hard. Many shows are free, everyone downloads, so tapes, even if they can't be played at home, are a way to show your appreciation.
5. Sound. The sound is to me the most important part. Cassette can sound just as good as vinyl with the proper transfer, and introduces some great artifacts like a smoother high-end and a bit of saturation.
6. Professionalism. If you've spent 20-50 hours to create artwork, order tapes, duplicate them (or get someone else to do it) etc etc you show that you're serious about shit. It's a way to create your brand (of course this goes for vinyl etc as well).
7. I'd just like to copy Coldpie's point in regards to vinyl further down in this thread. Go upvote him: "...for some there's more to listening to music than just listening to music. Going to the shelf and looking over the albums, remembering when you bought each album, who you've played them for, things that were happening while you listened to them. Looking at the cover art or the silly liner art or notes[1]. Noticing markings (or smells...) from previous owners and wondering about them, what they were doing when they bought or listened to the album. Physically placing the album on the turntable and aligning the needle. Listening to the lead-in scratches as you adjust the volume before the music kicks in. Sometimes you get silly lead-out loops[2]. It's just a fun, physical way to listen to music."
I guess the difference is that I make music as a hobby, and do it almost entirely for myself.
Personally I'd actually love to own a 4-track and do some solo stuff for the same reasons you described in your original post.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcissism_of_small_difference...
Mine's better because it's (slightly) different than yours.
Plus, they're fun to collect. A lot of releases will have different colored vinyl or special added features to the album.
Precisely this. "That difficult third track on the B side"...which turns out to be a total gem, yet might go unlistened and never appreciated.
I can sort of see your point if you're running a turntable with USB output to rip your vinyl. But for most cases that's for folks who have some old vinyl they want to convert without shelling out for a digital copy, we're happy to put up with a small loss of fidelity (which is barely noticeable). There's also times where there is no official digital copy available, or ever will be, I have a few gems in my collection like that.
It's just a fun, physical way to listen to music.
[1] The liner notes in Andrew Gold's "What's wrong with this picture?" was a recent highlight for me http://www.discogs.com/viewimages?release=1838376
[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unusual_types_of_gramophone_re...
http://www.welt.de/print/die_welt/hamburg/article126865000/D...
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