The road from atheism
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Muddled, unfalsifiable, self-abetting sophistry, in my mind. But it's creative, I suppose.
These explanations would also be creative; the primary reason I don't do this is because I have far more interesting and important things with which I choose to concern myself.
As I said, theological noncognitivism - it's not worth debating God because there is no definition of him/her/it. Classical theist, pantheist, pandeist, panentheist, henotheist, deist, pandeist, maltheist, personal God... at any given point in a debate people will start backtracking on different interpretations with radically different consequences if they are valid, yet still somehow conclude Christianity must be true after all of them.
Whether religions are placebo or nocebo depends a lot on the settings, I hate the sexism&homophobia&children brainwashing that many religions have.
Once I realize it wasn't true and stopped believing all that went away, and in some ways I still mourn that.
You can't look at a bunch of planes, recognize that there are more dead people in planes lying on the ground than there are in those flying through the air and conclude that planes in the air are safer than those on the ground. What is unsafe here is a rapid transition, not the state of being. You can't ignore those kinds of possibilities and draw meaningful conclusions.
It is a long read here is my TLDR;
It took this guy a decade to see through his and the fields biases and weak/uninformed arguments. My favorite bit on this is.
- "Read it, read into it, dismiss it, move on. How far can you go wrong? Very, very far. It took me the better part of a decade to see that"
- "the stock objections raised by atheists against the traditional arguments for God’s existence are often aimed at caricatures, some of them do have at least some force against some of the arguments of modern philosophers of religion. But they do not have force against the key arguments of the classical theist tradition."
Begins to question the nature of what we can know through science.
- "I came to see that existing naturalistic accounts of language and meaning were no good."
- "Physics, which materialists take to be the gold standard of our knowledge of the material world, in fact doesn’t give us knowledge of the intrinsic nature of matter in the first place."
- "The usual materialist theories were not even clearly thought out, much less correct."
- "A complete naturalistic explanation of intentionality is impossible."
- "Introspection, ...gives us direct knowledge of our thoughts and experiences. ...it is matter, and not mind, that is the really problematic side of the mind-body problem"
Takes a serious look at Aquinas and Scholastics, finds it very solid to his surprise
- "The way I and so many other philosophers tended to read the Five Ways was, as I gradually came to realize, laughably off base."
- "when they did say anything about Aquinas’s arguments at all, most of them showed only that they couldn’t even be bothered to get him right, much less show why he was mistaken."
- "Eventually it hit me: “Oh my goodness, these arguments are right after all!”
- "a little philosophy leads you away from God, but learning a lot of philosophy leads you back"
My favorite part of this post is how he really captures what I am certainly guilty of and I am sure so many of us are. Rather than really listen we prepare our argument which is really a way of building up our wall of existing belief. Of course that makes sense if you're feeling challenged you want to see if they can knock it down (hoping they can't) but really we should respect each other a bit more and just listen with an open mind and heart. It would save a lot of time I suspect.
"...to read something is not necessarily to understand it. Partly, of course, because when you’re young, you always understand less than you think you do. But mainly because, to understand someone, it’s not enough to sit there tapping your foot while he talks. You’ve got to listen, rather than merely waiting for a pause so that you can insert the response you’d already formulated before he even opened his mouth. And when you’re a young man who thinks he’s got the religious question all figured out, you’re in little mood to listen -- especially if you’ve fallen in love with one side of the question
You’re pretty much just going through the motions at that point. And if, while in that mindset, what you’re reading from the other side are seemingly archaic works, written in a forbidding jargon, presenting arguments and ideas no one defends anymore (or at least no one in the “mainstream”), your understanding is bound to be superficial and inaccurate."