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Regardless of how you fall on this issue, this article is clearly highly biased.

If you read their link "detailed data"[0] you can see there is an issue but you can also see that the level of invasion is low with most telemetry disabled.

This article links to that, but then ignores that author's conclusions (that it is a relatively light level of privacy invasion) to draw this conclusion:

> So how concerned should users be about Windows 10’s default data collection policies? I would say very.

But the author's articles are only really pro-Apple and anti-Microsoft, just look at their back catalogue [1]. They've written about Windows 10 problems weekly for months, getting more and more inflammatory each time.

So how concerned should readers be about the author's obvious bias? I would say very.

[0] http://arstechnica.co.uk/information-technology/2015/08/even...

[1] http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/archive/

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> you can also see that the level of invasion is low with most telemetry disabled.

Regardless of their history, something along the lines of "We will invade your privacy and you can't disable it, but the level of invasion is low, and you have no choice but to trust us on this" doesn't sound reassuring to me.

I don't want to go there, but one can easy question if you have pro-Microsoft tendencies (or even sponsored by Microsoft ), because we're talking about invasion of user privacy at the hands of a corporation, and just because it's a "low-level of invasion [that can't be turned off]" doesn't make it OK for users, be it Microsoft or Apple.

"Relatively light level of privacy invasion" is still privacy invasion.

But it still doesn't validate the need for a clickbait title or a highly inflammatory article. Say it how it is... no better or worse.

From the perspective of a person whose standard for an operating system is "zero invasion of privacy", there's nothing particularly inflammatory about the article.

It's fine if your expectations are less rigorous; you simply aren't part of the article's intended audience.

I know ubuntu, osx and windows 7 phone home for certains scenarios. Until you are running some *BSD box, you aren't getting that "zero invasion of privacy", you just think you are.

The browsers do so too BTW. Win7's telemetry settings was very different, but yes CEIP dates back to even Office 2003.

CEIP was always opt-in before.

I think in some cases it might have been enabled by default, but it still could be disabled.

It's possible to disable tracking on all of those though.

I agree with Someone1234 here.

Mods, can we get this link swapped out with a less biased one? I'm okay with Microsoft's telemetry stance hitting the front page, but I want it from a better source.

As linked by the article, the original news is at PC World, the language is milder but the point about the invasion of privacy is essentially the same http://www.pcworld.com/article/2997213/privacy/microsoft-doe...

Ascribing sides to people like "pro-Apple and anti-Microsoft" is exactly the same thing as complaining about the liberal media. It's both irrelevant and damages your credibility.

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