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De Raadt sounds like a pleasant, wise human in his slides (let's not talk about the mailing list).

I'm really looking forward to 5.9 if it includes pledge as well as vmm (native hypervisor)

Really? Tame/pledge seems like a good interface but the dig at Linus seemed unnecessary, the masturbating monkey was totally uncalled for, and the coil of poop juvenile.

Seriously lowered my view of the presentation.

Linus was the one calling the OpenBSD developers "m...... monkeys" (apparently that word triggers the HN spamfilter, I vouched your comment), so I think the OpenBSD guys are allowed to be "a bit miffed".

Ah. I was not aware of that.

I don't blame them for having issues with the way Linux does things (after all they run under different philosophies). But they didn't have to stoop to the same level.

It really wouldn't surprise me if something similar ended up in Linux one day. It just seems so clean and simple for the most common cases and small utilities.

well, this is a good example of the dangers of dropping to the lower level of the opposition; taken out of context, the images in the slides have a counter-productive effect on the presentation. You just always have to hold higher standards, or get dragged into the mud.

This only happens when we're (and I do mean all of us, not only a general IT crowd, but people, society as a whole) are too serious about ourselves, up to the level of butt-tight about it. I can't get insulted by the shiny pile, I cant get insulted by the monkey. In best case I'll think its mildly funny and adds some... shine to the presentation, at worst I'll think its simply a lack of good taste and move on with it.

I'm not insulted, but I find them tasteless and distracting. Other humor would probably fit better.

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