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Java and .NET have AOT compilers so compilation to native code is not a point.

They have support for generics and FP like programming that Go will never get.

Go will never have the access to the system resources on Windows and Windows Store like .NET does.

Go will never had access to Android frameworks like Java does.

Go doesn't have a UI toolkit like JavaFX and XAML.

All companies selling IoT SDKs are paring Java with C stacks.

Go doesn't have the IDE tooling support that Java and .NET enjoy.

Java and .NET having a hard time? Only if one is living in a bubble.

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Some of your info is a bit outdated.

Speaking of Go, it's appearently commonly used for server side services/apps. Well the same can be said for Java and C#/F#/VBNet.

All applications we all use on the client side are C/C++/ObjectC/web apps. (exceptions are maybe Eclipse/IntelliJ, mind that Visual Studio is C++). Java on Android is an exception for legacy reasons (Google bought the Android company; and we pay the price buy using 2x-4x as powerful hardware (CPU cores & memory) comparing to iPhone to get similar UX & latency). Even the Win10 startmenu is still a C++ application for performance reasons. AOT is helpful for certain execution paths like JIT and isn't magic. Even the Win8/10 calculator app has a loading splash screen, the FirefoxOS calc app starts faster. XML based UI languages work, but aren't that great (e.g. resizing the Win10 startmenu isn't what I would call responsive design in comparision what we known from HTML5&CSS3).

Beside that you wrote a good comment above: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10568915

> ll applications we all use on the client side are C/C++/ObjectC/web apps.

Not every company is the same.

Since when does Apple have server frameworks for Objective-C?

WebObjects was re-written in Java.

My current customer uses everything native, with web apps just for small CRUD maintenance tasks of a few DB systems.

> Visual Studio is C++

Visual Studio is a mix of C++ and .NET code, its UI infrastructure was completely rewritten in VS 2010.

> Even the Win10 startmenu is still a C++ application for performance reasons.

Have you seen the code? How sure are you that it isn't .NET Native?

> Even the Win8/10 calculator app has a loading splash screen,

Anyone that knows WP dev, knows those splash screens are optional.

> the FirefoxOS calc app starts faster.

Which is behind WP and BlackBerry in sales.

One advantage of Go is that more code is dependent on the network which is where Go shines at. Go looks like a hammer when the network looks like a nail. For example, Go was one of the first to start adding HTTP2 support. If Go is always there for network tools, it will creep into areas that perhaps many would not have foreseen like security systems that were previously done in C and C++.

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