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I agree with you. I also like being "closer to the machine" so to speak. One day, my dev browser will support ES6/7 and I won't need babel + webpack/browserify while doing locally development, debugging will be done on unmunged code and TDD will be easy to practice as the feedback loop will be back to normal.

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If you ditch Babel you won't be able to use ES8/9.

For me ES6/7 has addressed all the low hanging fruit, I really hope ES8/9 is about removing features with only a few additions.

everybody agrees to add "only a few additions", except has different set of them!

Agreed... about the only thing from ES7 that I feel the burning need for is await/async, which I've been using for some time via Babel, and it makes the code so much easier to reason with... the hardest part is explaining to people that an async function returns a Promise and can be wrapped/used as such.

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