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Some one needs to pay attention to Bittorrent Bleep https://www.bleep.pm/ It is closed source but it riding on a big P2P betwork.. the Mainline DHT

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Why would a closed source client from a company known to be scummy (looking at what they did to uTorrent) be something anyone should pay any attention to? (FWIW I did check it out, but it wasn't better than Telegram, nor was it better when it was released than Signal is now.)

I'm not filled with confidence when visiting a secure messaging app site that fires off warnings when visiting the https url.

Of course HTTPS is not at all secure due to that central source of authority enabling easy large-organization MITM.

If the problem you're solving is bringing E2E encryption to the masses, then starting with a site that brings up

"Your connection is not private

Attackers might be trying to steal your information"

as the very first thing I see is not really leaping over the first hurdle.

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