Some Turn to Church; Others, to CrossFit
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The reason CrossFit is better - for me - than the ordinary gym, is because in the past I would join a gym and not know what to do, and not know how to use the equipment, and not have a specific time to be there, and not have anyone to ask what to do, and feel silly, and stop going (but keep paying).
CrossFit is like group personal training, not a cult.
The trainer is very good and there is a big focus on safety and avoiding injury. The trainers are always available to help and guide you on how to exercise properly and safely. In fact I think it's much safer than going to an ordinary gym where you are left to work it out yourself and you'll probably do it wrong, endangering your health.
I don't love exercising - I value it but nothing more than that. So at CrossFit I don't need to think about it. I go along and get told what to do and it's a balanced exercise program. I just try not to go too hard - I'm in it for the long haul.
It's friendly but it's not a church or a love-in.
I did get a shoulder injury (currently recovering from it) but it's because of my years of sedentary living my muscles are weak and things like shoulder muscles aren't held together well by atrophied muscle. That's not the fault of CrossFit.
>> The trainer is very good and there is a big focus on safety and avoiding injury.
>> I did get a shoulder injury (currently recovering from it) but it's because of my years of sedentary living my muscles are weak and things like shoulder muscles aren't held together well by atrophied muscle. That's not the fault of CrossFit.
My mother used to be in a cult and I spent a good part of my childhood living on one of the compounds. Still, I am always surprised to find how easy it is for people to believe and say things that make no logical sense.
Quite obviously, if your trainer really was very good with a big focus on safety and avoiding injury, he would've known that you had weak shoulder muscles. I would bet good money that you suffered this injury during an exercise suggested and supervised by a 'safety conscious' CrossFit instructor. This is no one's fault _except_ CrossFit and your trainer. You paid them a ton of money to help you train safely and they failed.
You are fortunate to have a good trainer at your box, but you don't have Crossfit to thank for that. The minimum requirement for opening a box is a one weekend training course to get your Level 1 certification. That's it. Considering the skill level required to properly coach some of the Olympic lifts involved in Crossfit training, a weekend hardly scratches the surface.
As for the big focus on safety and avoiding injury, a number of WODs have heavy lifts for time that invite form breakdown and injury (e.g. "Diane"). Then there is always the "Uncle Rhabdo" mascot and the strange glorification of ripping blisters off your hands doing kipping pullups, but I digress.
Glad it works for you.
> CrossFit is like group personal training, not a cult.
This is relative.
> The trainer is very good and there is a big focus on safety and avoiding injury.
This is also relative and a bigger problem. Crossfit pushes profit motives over competence.
Living in Santa Cruz, ground zero for Crossfit, the over zealousness of opening gyms, inconsistency of quality, etc. is pretty prominent.
You find the routine that works for you. For me, Crossfit reminds me of Bikram Yoga, the business/franchise aspect takes precedent over quality.
Myself, I've seen similar in yoga and martial arts. But, if you find a program that works for you, that is all that should matter.
Being active develops your body in a much better way as well. Muscles and tendons are much more complex than what is suggested by people who lift weights. Squatting heavy for 10 reps is only going to result in a very specific type of muscular development. Muscles have multiple compartments as determined by the various nerve endings. They have different types of muscle fibres and there are multiple smaller muscles all over the place.
It is pretty easy to recognise people who lift weights and don't do anything else because their bodies look strange. Many people at gyms have bigger chests than the worlds greatest fighters, bigger legs than the fastest people in the world, and wider shoulders than the fastest swimmers. Their muscles are counterproductive to being athletic as their legs rub together when they walk and so on. It is not just about size, it is about everything.
No it was the fault of crossfit. Most likely you had overdeveloped internal rotators which caused impingement due to poor posture. Any responsible trainer would get you to do facepulls and rows and maybe posterior chain exercises like deadlifts to correct your posture before you did overhead work. Injuries at the gym are extremely common because the body is more complex than some people think.
Having fun outdoors should be people's main source of exercise, not rep 1, rep 2, protein shake. Nutrition is another topic. Weight lifting is to being active as supplements, frozen meals, processed shit is to actual real food. And no you don't need 500 grams of protein per day. The whole fitness industry is garbage. It presents these bizarre bodies that nobody finds attractive as ideals and so people try to obtain them.
Look at any crossfit facebook page. For example:
https://www.facebook.com/CrossFit.Coorparoo/?fref=ts
You will see people who have:
massive arms that are completely out of proportion with their shoulders. Most people are not designed to have arms that big, which is why they don't match their shoulders.
Take these guys for example:
https://www.facebook.com/CrossFit.Coorparoo/photos/pcb.16302...
Then there are the girls with massive legs:
https://www.facebook.com/CrossFit.Coorparoo/photos/a.1627123...
and the guys with muscles that look like fat worms have invaded their body:
https://www.facebook.com/CrossFit.Coorparoo/photos/a.1627123...
They are a joke and the media is trying to make people think those types of things are attractive but the general population do not find them attractive at all.
Your friends move house only so often. The trend to exercise is unfortunately a direct consequence of technological progress - the move away from physically demanding jobs towards sitting for most of the day. Also, honestly, there's so much other stuff to do besides work, that not many have time for "an active lifestyle". So it's exercising for most of us, because it's more efficient.
> Having fun outdoors should be people's main source of exercise,
It should be, but it can't be. Not in our society, while we're still expected to work. Maybe after UBI comes, we'll have time and means to have fun outdoors.
> The whole fitness industry is garbage.
That I agree with, but it's mostly because it's pseudoscience and making money off people's vanity.
Sport you usually play with people you know - therefore, hard to coordinate all the schedules and commitments.
> When in ancient history did humans need to lift 60kg over their heads anyway?
Not often, but then they spent most of the day lifting or carrying 10kg weights. I think it's about effort/time tradeoff.
I didn't say that - I like exercise, I just don't love it. I'm not a fanatic.
It really did seem kind of like a religion or a cult; clearly the owners and the more serious customers had deeply invested their identities in what they were doing, and were seeking approval from one another. I perceived a kind of aloofness or elitism in the way that they valued validation from the in group over the rights and values of their neighbors. I came to recognize many of the customers, some whom were often there 20 or more hours per week. It seemed that one of the core tenets of the religion was that one must always have an audience while working out, if not willing then captive. Cheering, yelling, throwing large objects like tractor tires, and just generally doing everything outdoors, at maximum volume, in a public space, was apparently mandatory.
I worked at home for a couple years next to these guys. I could hear them inside my house all day, which they ran laps around in groups, with the leader shouting commands like a drill Sargent. When I worked in garden they were they there, throwing weights – it was required that all weights be thrown forcefully to the ground, in a dominance display accompanied chimpanzee-like shrieks, never merely set down on the pavement. When I retired to my porch for a cup of coffee, they were there, milling around next to my yard taking about their core workouts and protein shakes.
So it was almost like I lived at Crossfit for a while. In principle, I love the idea of a community gym. Now and then I would see one of the instructors cheering on a chunky middle aged person lifting weights, and that was so great it almost made up for it. Almost.
They moved away last year. My life has become much more pleasant, and I have had several months to reflect on this strange phenomenon. I value health and fitness, and I'm really not just jealous because they were more “swole” then me. For what it's worth, I ran 25 miles and lifted this week, but you probably wouldn't guess by looking at me. I'm not perfect, but I'm pretty much where I want to be with fitness – trying to do my best mostly, and not be nut job about it.
But is it really necessary to serve up personal fitness with a double side-order of external validation and group identity? Good health is it's own reward, and when our self image is so narrowly invested in one aspect of our lives, especially appearances, it's easy to overlook other personal growth opportunities. My neighbors muscles were big enough; I think they should have taken a break to work on their personalities.
I'd like to close with a joke: “If a Vegan does Crossfit, which one do they talk about first?”
For some, it may be. I feel like it could be good for me, as a way to hack my mind. I hate exercising - not because of the physical effort, but because I'm too attention-deficient to experience it, or "good health", as any kind of reward. Exercising feels like a waste of time that could be spend on something else, e.g. reading a book or helping someone with some problem. I know my mind simply doesn't factor future health in day-to-day computations. I have to consciously and explicitly force* myself to care about it, and any way to push that care back from System II to System I is something I appreciate.
> and when our self image is so narrowly invested in one aspect of our lives, especially appearances, it's easy to overlook other personal growth opportunities.
True, though if your other areas are well-cultivated, then it may be worth to take that risk.
> I'd like to close with a joke: “If a Vegan does Crossfit, which one do they talk about first?”
They'll tell you how everyone from their Crossfit group loved their new fruit smoothie.
;).
Excellent joke :) But also, we all know the only sanctioned diet in Crossfit (tm) is the paleo diet! :)
I did crossfit for about a year and must say that the workout is excellent and it's nice to have "personal trainers" always running the workout.
But it sure felt like a cult. It was mandatory to "disrespect" other forms of fitness etc training, they were all seen as stupid and pointless compared to Crossfit (tm). And yes you take your kids there also etc. Once a pregnant woman did workout with another baby strapped to her back. You know training with lifting barbells over your head etc. And "to the max!". Seemed kind of stupid and over the top...
And everything seems to have to be so "extreme", you know puking during workout and working out so hard your muscles break down (rhabdo is seen as a badge of honour http://www.webmd.com/a-to-z-guides/rhabdomyolysis-symptoms-c...).
Nice that people work out hard but any sport that takes things to this level just isn't my cup of tea.
If that doesn't deserve an upvote, nothing does.
If you get injured, it's a combination of luck, morphology, and activity, ie the interaction of your genes with the environment, just like anything else. You can follow an excellent routine with exemplary form and still pick up injuries, although good technique should reduce this. However good technique and appropriate routines are hotly debated.
So here's the truth: what works for you will work for you. And that's it. There's no magic formula that works for everyone. Consequently you have to experiment, and consequently you risk injury. That's the story.
Trainers are (probably) not medically qualified, or qualified in rehabilitation. ("Qualified" is a technical term, it does not mean "enthusiastic about"). Consequently they (probably) do not know why your shoulder/whatever got injured, and what to do about it. "Imbalances" and "core" and "posture" are (probably) nothing to do with it. Do not follow their advice. Do not follow the advice of the guy who's had the same injury as you. Do not follow your friend's advice. Go see a professional. And shop around to find the right one for you.
Here the secret secret to recovery from nearly all injuries: Stop doing what caused it, and what makes it worse. Quit that stuff for 3 months. Replace it with something else if you need to (analyse your goals; think long-term not short term). Stay motivated and realise that your body is hugely resilient and adaptable. When you go back to the aggravating activity start from square one, real beginner-level basics, and sloooooooowly phase up the frequency and intensity. Modify, adapt, find your own path.
Good luck :)
I believe it's good to engage people in any kind phisical activity, but when it's fueled by marketing rules and encouraged competitivity might especially for people without any sport background cause sometimes unreversible phisical harm.
Plus in Church of Brodin it's a sin ;) (http://bookofbrodin.wikia.com/wiki/The_Story_of_Brometheus)
Wheymen!
"Hazardous". Haha.
https://scholar.google.co.uk/scholar?as_vis=1&q=weightliftin...
I've been doing CrossFit for 2 years and feel better than I have in decades. I do have a background in weightlifting (college football). However, my wife does CrossFit as well and prior to starting she never touched weights. Again, she feels better than ever. But then again she isn't being stupid about doing movements she is uncomfortable with and isn't loading until she has got the technique down. Furthermore, there are 70+ year olds in our classes, some of them first timers as well. They are obviously not snatching their body weight but scale the exercises appropriate to them.
I guess this just goes along with a general societal trend to eschew personal responsibility and blame externalities.
I completely agree. Your comment seems to support my assertion that there are "well-documented hazards" which I took the time to cursorily reference. And yet you replied with "Thanks for the laugh! :) 'Hazardous'. Haha."
Your comments don't seem logically consistent. (Plus there's more than a touch of ad hominem attack in there, which isn't necessary.)
You follow this with bandwaggoning and appealing to anecdote: "I do X, I know someone who does X" etc etc.
> "general societal trend to eschew personal responsibility"
I just have absolutely no idea how you arrive at this.
For the record: I lift weights. I highly recommend it. It mitigates the risk of certain diseases. It increases the risk of certain injuries.
I really have no idea why you'd debate this.