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France doesn't consider anything. If you speak French, just read the original article on lemonde. It's just a wish list from people working in police and gendarmerie.

    Etabli mardi 1er décembre par la direction des libertés publiques
    et des affaires juridiques (DLPAJ), il recense toutes les mesures
    de police administrative que les policiers et les gendarmes
    souhaiteraient voir passer dans le cadre des deux projets de loi
    en cours d’élaboration, l’un sur l’état d’urgence et l’autre sur
    la lutte antiterroriste.

Even if it was an official proposition from government, there were no guarantee this will go through the legislative process. Parliamentary members do not follow systematically the government and even when they do, many laws are partially or completely blocked by "conseil constitutionnel".

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Does the French public complain that "nothing gets passed" like the Australian public does? I am a massive fan of that system. It has stopped dangerous legislation from being passed. Not all of it, and not enough, but some, and that's better than none.

A lot of people don't understand this about the American system. It's not supposed to be easy to push through new law. It's supposed to be so difficult that only law that reflects wide consensus can get through, under the theory that this will prevent bad or dangerous laws from going on the books. If there's a problem in the system now, it's that people have stopped trying to reach that consensus, not that the process is slow when it's being actively pursued.

But without the right to protest, it's going to be complex for citizens to express their disapproval of these ideas. A massive part of the population doesn't even understand the extend of such a thing anyway, so yes... I would worry about it getting voted by the parliament.

Care to offer a summary for those of us that aren't fluent? :)

Created by the DLPAJ on December 1st, the report contains all the police measures that the police (and maybe French military, "gendarme"?) wish to see included in two bills currently being debated: one on the state of emergency and the other on anti-terrorism.

The "Gendarmerie" is a part of the military that operates police duties. Although the concept was originally French, you can find a similar thing in a a lot of continental european countries (the Carabinieri in Italy, the Guarda Nacional Republicana in Portugal, the Guardia Civil in Spain, Internal Troops/National Guard in Ukraine, ...).

In France, generally speaking, the Police National is in charges of cities and large metropolitan areas, and the Gendarmerie is seen in rural areas. They live in barracks, and are weird in that they answer both to the ministry of interior and to the ministry of defense.

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