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I just checked Datanyze which crawls the Alexa 1m and more to see which services & libraries websites are using. They've detected 234,003 sites using Angular and 2,069 using React.

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I think Angular is more accessible than React. I don't think React will be adopted as much by non-engineers. React is usually used alongside significant tooling like babel and webpack/browserify and some flux library. It's probably more complex. You can't just drop some js script file in your HTML document and go with that.

I say that as someone who thinks React is the future of JavaScript development and there's no chance I will ever go back to separate templates so Angular of whatever version is just automatically disqualified. It would be like going back in time and I do not want to do this.

Yes you can! We are using requirejs, babel,es6 to have a react setup that runs completely in the browser. But for some reason, react makes this information really obscure.

It works really well. Including breakpoints in chrome,etc.

It might work for developing, but I don't think it works well for people actually using it, it's too slow.

which is actually my point - running it this way helps us do a lot of beta testing internally,etc. Obviously this is not a production strategy, but the way we have written code (with requirejs) is that we can switch between them.

I really hope that React makes this more public - it makes it for quick and dirty prototyping. P.S. love ES6. Performance be damned!!

Care to share your setup? I.e. minimal todo-like application with both direct development and with compilation for production site.

Give me a few hours, I'll strip some stuff out.

Don't spent to much time on it, because it will be deprecated in few years. :-)

Angular 2 also requires that level of tooling (both allow you to use ES5 and don't require tooling but most devs won't use them like that).

>I think Angular is more accessible than React. I don't think React will be adopted as much by non-engineers.

Both are meant for engineers, if by that you mean developers.

For very small projects you can write react code in one or a few files without babel, webpack/browserify and similar tools. That closes the gap but I agree that angular is easier to just prototype something simple if you're not a developer.

Angular is popular among developers who make products for the kind of person who would install the Alexa toolbar.

That comment reeks of sour grapes.

Similartech shows 13,390 websites using React and 248,280 websites using Angular

I'd love to see those numbers for Ember, Polymer, Backbone and Aurelia.

52,767 for Backbone and 599 for Ember. Datanyze don't appear to be tracking Polymer or Aurelia yet.

according to similartech 927 websites using Ember and 139,844 websites using Backbone

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