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Jeez, just let the market sort it out ... if the demand is really that high, Apple will just suck it and add Flash to the iPad. Otherwise stop your bitching, you can't win them all.

The iPhone story is irrelevant in this context ... I don't think there are too many people wanting to play flash-games or to watch porn on that little screen ... especially since you need both hands to navigate its tiny browser ;)

Their strong response to the iPad does show one thing though ... they are getting desperate and they are really afraid of HTML5.

Open Access? That should be more like "convenient access". Open access is when the standard is open and has been implemented by third-parties. That's not Flash.

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Let the market sort it out? He's the CTO of Adobe, his job is to push the market one way or another, this isn't bitching, this is exactly what he's supposed to do. If this was just another blogger going on about Flash yet again then I might agree, but that's clearly not the case.

"[Adobe was] the strongest opponent of Theora becoming the official video-codec"

How did you come to that conclusion? The codecs were removed from the standards docs because browser vendors couldn't agree on a video format, not Adobe. Apple refused to include Theora support in Safari.

Yeah, sorry ... I probably misread something, seeing now that I can't find a reference. So I removed that.

I completely agree with you, but in the interest of lively discussion I'll play devils advocate for a second here and point out Gordon [1] which is an open-source flash implementation written in Javascript and Gnash which is an open-source flash movie player [2].

[1] http://github.com/tobeytailor/gordon

[2] http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/

Gordon is not a Flash implementation. It is a Flash-to-SVG converter for basic vector graphics. That's about 5% of the Flash runtime, the parts that date back to the earliest versions of Flash. To call yourself a Flash implementation, you have to at least take a stab at multimedia, ActionScript, external resources, ...

Gordon will never do anything fancier than play a Newgrounds animated cartoon... without the audio track.

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