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Adobe: 7 million people attempt to download Flash each month

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7 million people each month get redirected to Adobe's passive-aggressive appeal stating that they "could totally provide Flash for the iPhone, if only Apple would let us", because they browsed to a mouse/keyboard-dependent Flash game, or a page festooned with flash ads.

Meanwhile, Adobe has not delivered a full Flash player for Android or WebOS. I'd heard that there's one packaged for Maemo as a normal NPAPI plugin built for ARM, but Nokia+Mozilla won't ship it because it sucks.

Love it or hate it, flash still counts for a lot of the entertainment sector's web functionality. Apple should admit that many of it's users miss that and will continue do so with even greater poignancy when the iPad ships.

This will rage on until HTML5 is able to replicate and improve on every function of flash.

Which it doesn't for things like access to audio/video inputs (i.e. microphones and webcams). Though I have to admit that I find the prospect of configuring those through a Chrome or Firefox preferences interface more compelling than doing so through Flash.

"7 million people attempt to download Flash each month to their iPhones"

I find that extremely hard to believe.

It's more likely 7 million users per month hitting a page with flash on it is somehow being translated into an attempt to download.

Probably counting the redirects to http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer (which look like this: http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/02/adobe-engages-apple-in-pa... on mobile Safari).

Imagining a non-tech-savvy, new iPhone user presented with the idea of mobile internet for the first time, I just tried going to Hulu right now -- there's a pretty clear message on the home page that you need to "install Flash," which leads to the afore-linked page. I don't think 7 million is all that unreasonable.

From the article: I’m not positive whether 7 million attempts directly translates into 7 million iPhone/iPod touch users it’s entirely possible it’s just ONE GUY who really doesn’t get it

That statistic would be more impressive if their download site worked properly. I've been stuck without Flash for a while now because I use Linux on a 64-bit machine, but the Flash 10.1 beta page has only dead links (http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flashplayer10/).

Did you read the article? It's about iPhone/iPod download attempts.

I regularly fail to install flash on computers at libraries or even on my home computers. The installer is extremely buggy.

Sometimes I try to make a sandwich, and drop the meat on the floor. Then I'm sad.

original article:

The company told me today that in December, there were more than 7 million attempts to download Flash from Adobe.com from iPhones and iPod Touches

7M windows users like me who had to reformat their HD because of a virus.

Just happened to me last week.

Read the article. It's about iPhone users attempting to download it.

Assuming there's no smoke and mirrors (unlikely) it would be the best piece of leverage so far in this increasingly pathetic squabble.

This could be 7 billion and it wouldn't change anything.

Sorry if I've offended.

My point was meant to be that regardless of how many iPhone users are attempting to download Flash, Apple is not going to change its stance unless Adobe addresses the performance issues within Flash. And even then Apple may not change. . . .

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