Comment by vonklaus | Hacker News Reader

Comment by vonklaus | Hacker News Reader

I will not beleagure this point again, I make it everyday on deaf ears.

* Search can never be decoupled from the browser.

* search is worse and discovery is hard.

* Brave Software needs to focus on building security by design which means a search engine AND browser.

The memex-explorer model is the design of the google killer. Likely why it was abandoned.

Browser wars began ~6 months ago.

The next larry page & brin, WILL write a search engine.

Edit; It is impossible for google to use human language and (questionably respected) boolean operators as the only filtering mechanism For hundreds of billions of pages.

Staggering how well they do with just 1 textbox and image & video tabs, but new players wont have to follow the same roadmap.

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Please Explain Downvotes

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I am trying to ascertain how I have been thinking about this incorrectly. Often, downvoted but no one explains why. How am I thinking about this incorrectly, what am I missing?

I would like to know your reasoning as to why search cannot be decoupled from the browser; I would like to know why you think that a browser war began about six months ago.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11134798

Trying to find time to continue work on something a bit more polished but it is not ready. This is my response in another thread, either ctrl+f my un or "-2" and you will see response to similar query.

Idea is "so obviously crazy", mentioning it publicly for several months and begging people to consider it and work on it has been met with down votes or completely ignoring it. Which means, if you realize it now and start working on it, you will have ~6 (I think less now though) head start as people catch up with it.

edit: Because I don't think this makes sense as a model for search. http://imgur.com/Gz7hXY7

Can you explain the image and what it's trying to show? That the number of text links should be more than the number of image links to well known sites? I'm asking because I do something similar on my site, solveforall.com, but to a much lesser degree of course.

I am going to hack on this and see how it works, but first glance looks cool.

The image (really confusingly) illustrates the searchflow model:

Broweser ==> Google

Goolge ==> Results

results ===> Hacker news or another aggregator

aggregator ===> your fav. sub community (because gooigle discovery sucks)

subreddit helps you find links you want

in those links you find information

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that is what a manual crawl feels like, and how many people use the web.

Ah, I get it now. Thanks for the explanation. This is the problem with the "deep web" not being indexable by crawlers. I've started looking at how to make this easier for users. Basically I'm got some ways to detect which sites should be searched in response to your queries, based on the category of words in your query and the site. But then I need to do a real-time search of that site, that might require JS to run, extract the links, and present them back to the user. It might be slow, but it's easier for the user to wait for the cloud to do it than click the links on multiple sites himself.

Thanks for checking out my site. If you have any questions or have any trouble please let me know at help@solveforall.com. And maybe we can explore brainstorming/collaborating since you've clearly put a lot of thought into search.

Search can be decoupled from the browser, it always has been; so starting with an obviously wrong statement puts people off.

You've not explained the relationship between security and search either (unless you mean privacy?)

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