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> [Javascript] simply is too limited a language to be used for large and complex applications. The proof of this is that JavaScript is used for exactly zero non-browser runtime environments (discounting node.js whose only appeal is to use the same language on the server as in the browser).

Electron? Atom? Slack? React Native? Espruino?

Also, there are plenty of non-web Node.js applications, e.g. https://github.com/sindresorhus/awesome-nodejs#command-line-...

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Wrapping a browser instead of using one directly doesn't make your application run in a non-browser runtime environment.

And to be completely honest, probably sacrificing a bit karma. All of your examples enforce my point of view on JS as a 'use it as minimal as necessary' language else avoid it.

React Native doesn't wrap a browser view, it uses native gui controls.

> use it as minimal as necessary

Interesting point of view, considering that people are building javascript desktop applications, server applications, embedded applications, web (browser) applications, and what not.

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