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I've been wondering what is the thing that will come along which Apple totally ignores and ends up dwarfing them. Who knows, but it seems like VR is a possibility. Imagine if someone ships a very immersive VR experience, that's going to be a lot more compelling than the 5" phone screen in your hand. And it doesn't seem to be a space Apple is paying any attention to, though of course they could just be doing things in secret.

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VR by definition cannot impact everyday life the way smartphones or PCs did. It will forever be a novelty, imho.

The real threats for Apple, imho, are successful web companies expanding towards hardware. Apple does great HW and poor online services; someone doing great online services and great HW could hit them badly. Google got close already; Microsoft will try again once they complete their retooling; Amazon are unfocused but could fish a winner with some original thinking; Facebook/Dropbox/others might also challenge at some point. Luckily for Apple, hardware is very difficult to get right and get profitable.

Amazon Echo could be a huge hit once they incorporate an app store.

Barring an outbreak of hysteria about this device in your home that's basically capable of listening to everything you say....

In contrast to a smartphone?

When it comes to privacy concerns, people can be highly selective. Look at the lack of furore over Google Android compared to Windows 10, for example.

There's no inherent definition of VR that by its very nature means it can't be more impactful than the smartphone.

VR isn't going to be a novelty if people switch to experiencing life primarily in a virtual manner due to the vast expanse it will offer. That includes travel, art, gaming, social, shopping, media.

With today's technology? No. With the technology we'll have in 30 years? Yep. And particularly the technology that will gradually evolve over that time. It'll be far more impressive and useful than the smartphones we have today, in every regard.

If you had told someone in 2003 that billions of people would use their cell phones for so much today, and that people would practically be attached at the hip 24/7 to them, I don't think you'd have been believed - the notion that everyone would have their face buried in large glass screens for hours each day, socializing, shopping, etc.

Virtual and augmented reality seem like the endgame for what phones do for us now. Instead of a computer on every desk, or every pocket, it's one in every eye.

I'd rather follow a set of virtual arrows to my destination than have to keep checking my phone. This goes for a lot of tasks I use my phone for. Though the privacy concerns are more worrisome than mobile phones!

Vr and augmented are different things. Augmented has potential, but the heavy lifting will likely be done in smartphones for the time being, like it's happening with watches. The smartphone is the perfect "unit of computing" as it is; we will get better interfaces, but the mobile revolution has already happened. Augmented won't be as transformative as smartphones have been.

Over the past 9 months there have been lots of rumblings about them hiring in the space. Tim Cook straight up acknowledged it in the last earnings call - saying he didn't believe it was a niche and there were really interesting use cases.

I don't think Apple has ever been as clear on a new product segment.

Apples downfall could be software, especially AI. Google/MS/Amazon or even Facebook all have incredible distributed software systems, lots of AI R&D etc. while Apples attempts are somewhat lackluster.

I don't think it will be there downfall, all of those companies have failed to make compelling mass market hardware and have shown no lack of willingness to write software for iOS. Whatever they do in AI that benefits the consumer, they will make sure it runs on iOS.

If Apple gets so far behind that they need to offer it to their customers, they will probably make it easier to integrate Amazon, Microsoft, or Facebook's offerings.

Apple can just buy stuff. It bought Siri, after all.

Google could probably sell a lot of Nexus phones if they really tried. They'd probably burn their bridges with the other Android vendors if they did this though so it would require a pretty significant strategic shift.

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