Why Are Educators Learning How to Interrogate Their Students?
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“Handling tears” appears, with a blank space underneath for trainees to take down Buckley’s dictation. “Don’t stop,” Schneider wrote in her notes. “Tears are the beginning of a confession. Use congratulatory statement—‘Glad to see those tears, because it tells me that you’re sorry, aren’t you?’
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Nice, beautiful. First lie to them, scare them, suggest they were guilty, then watch them cry and then use that against them.
From the companion article from New Yorker on Reid Technique (http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2013/12/09/the-interview-7)
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You expand on themes that trigger the right response. It can take minutes or hours. You might even lie: “Why were your fingerprints found on that gun?”
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I guess it is worth repeating ad nauseam don't talk to the police or agree to be go to the station "just to chat". I guess the advice is to teach students that school administrators are hostle just like police, and never talk to them and/or familiarize them to counter-act the Reid technique so they identify and are aware of what is happening.
To expand on the last point, it is worth pointing out that just like the polygraph, this Reid technique also becomes an Achilles Heel against a more prepared subject. For example, I remember reading about Aldrich Ames, a high level CIA employee was giving information to the Soviets during the Cold War. He passed several routine polygraph tests while doing so. The reason was because he was trained to do so by his handlers, and also because examiners believed polygraph is a reliable tool. If subject passes such an advanced test, they can't be lying.
Likewise, a good criminal (well, ok, a good criminal will never find themselves caught), but still, they could learn the idea behind the Reid thing and understand what is being done. Go through the whole process, and then at the end the investigators would be convinced "well, we used our advanced technique on him, he didn't confess, he must not be guilty" and so on.
The principal's office is not a courtroom - there is no right to remain silent, right to due process, right to representation, cross-examination, presumption of innocence, burden of proof, or anything like that.
School administrators are 100% within their rights to dispense the same punishments to uncooperative students as those whose guilt can be actually established, to escalate discipline (including, in 19 states, beating with paddles and canes) until the student apologizes/confesses, and to share the fruits of their much-less-constrained interrogations with police.
Compare that to Canada, where I also went to school. If you want to walk out of the school, you may do so at any time during the day with no consequence. During your lunch break you can go buy whatever you want and even hang out in an area designated for smoking. So yeah America's schools suck from my experience.
Third world schools are however much worse where teachers can often beat the students with no recourse.
In that case the goal is to let interogators think the technique they were sent to the seminar to learn, is working, it is just that the student is not guilty.
"The don't talk" advice would be not give them anything to share with the police. But then can't win, because silence will be met with punishment as will be seen as a sign of guilt (just like crying).
> including, in 19 states, beating with paddles and canes)
How common is that? I understand they are laws that allow it, some are archaic and are in books because nobody bothered to eliminat them. I've heard of just calling the cops and let cops cuff them and take them away. Seems like beating them in school building, by school staff, would invite more lawsuits, and if anything they will go to extreme lengths to avoid lawsuits.
> According to the Department of Education, over 166,000 students in public schools were physically punished during the 2011–12 school year.
Should be titled, how principles are joining into the professional party state prosecutors have been enjoying for years. "Get more convictions, look like a pro!" All you have to do is act like a extortionist. Why let the criminals have all the fun?!
And we wonder why our children's live's are desperate now like the adults? And we loose some of our brightest stars... RIP Aaron Swartz.
Take a look at Catholic hospitals. They do not exist only "to serve the customer". They can and do place religious preferences before the health of the patient, especially in regards to abortion. Non-customer-oriented preferences even apply in competitive markets. To give another religious example, Chik-fil-A is not open on Sunday, even though other fast food chicken restaurants are open and profitable, which shows a customer demand.
Similarly, education is rarely a competitive marketplace. In some towns there may be only one high school. I believe this is why jMyles felt "blessed to have that choice."
Even when there is a choice of two or three schools, consider the full economics. A parent who sends a student to a private school is not the only customer. If you are in that 5% then your preferences may be ignored because even if all 5% went to the same school, that would still only be 20% of the school population. The school may prefer to optimize for the 80% than the 20%.
In addition, religious schools often get support from the supporting church, which dilutes your economic power. Or a school may get donations from alumni who want the school to remain unchanged from when they were in school.
Nor did superuser2 say that "there would be NO private schools" which met the parents' criteria, only that "private schools have extremely wide latitude", so some are better, and some are worse, than public schools. Some have draconian discipline by design, hence the question "Do you imagine that private schools are better in this regard?" than the public schools which jMyles universally dismisses.
If conducting police interrogations turns little Johnny into a serial killer, it the Reid program's fault. If expelling a child with a pellet gun seems ridiculous, it's the Congress's fault.