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If they don't share basic cultural values our society is built upon, I think that matters a ton. People who 'mistreat' or even just disapprove of how women in our society live their lives, how we treat gays, non-believers, have nothing to add to our society or this world.

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"We" started treating gay people and women and nonbelievers well to some extent in the past decades. And disagreement over such rights are not the only cause of anti-refugee sentiment. In Sweden, extremist arsonists light refugee housing on fire. That's sheer hatred, not liberal concern.

Yep. They don't want them there. But there is a world of difference between hatred towards non EU people and towards EU citizens. The only people that have a right to be in EU are the citizens of EU. For everyone else it is a privilege.

Well, that's an interesting question from a human rights perspective. Hannah Arendt among many others have written about human rights and people who are displaced by war, deportation, lack of citizenship, etc. The view that the European borders legitimately forbid people in need from entering is inhumane as far as I can tell—and not really supported by the constitutions either.

The European borders prevent everyone from enetering. Whether humane or not is irrelevant.

There are few placec in which you are allowed to cross. You can be in need and cross there.

Disapproval of modern women, gays and non-believers... Sorry I stepped out for a minute, are we talking about fundamentalist Christians? Orthodox Jews?

These populations are not common in Europe. And I would love to stay that way. People that take their religion too seriously should stay out of EU.

What about poland ?

Religious flamewars are not allowed on Hacker News. We've warned you about this before. Please don't do it again.

> Sorry I stepped out for a minute, are we talking about fundamentalist Christians? Orthodox Jews?

Well, in few years/decades you may have one more significantly influential group for your list :)

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