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Goats on Acid (2002)

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> ... after administration of 15 micrograms of LSD per kilogram of body weight.

That's a huge amount. 15ug/kg would equate to 1200 ug for a 80kg human, which is a lot.

That goat was tripping balls, no wonder it was painting the infinity symbol (8) with its movement patterns :).

Also, the 7000 pound elephant who died, was injected with 297mg of LSD, which would amount to 297,000ug/3175,15kg = 93.5ug / kg, which is insane.

Did those "scientists" even know what they were testing ?

But anyway, interesting results. I'm curious if they tried dosing an animal and a human at the same time to see how human-animal interaction and communication is affected.

fun fact 1200 ug is a psychedelic trance project that uses that exact name:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GI8TFXvjsQE

> Did those "scientists" even know what they were testing ?

They thought they did. Check out the original paper. They found that many animals needed higher (relative) dosages to get affected, administered up to 1mg/kg to macaques (no death), and found that 6.5mg/kg was necessary to kill a cat.

"Lysergic Acid Diethylamide: Its Effects on a Male Asiatic Elephant" http://www.psych.ufl.edu/~steh/PSB3002/LSDelephant.pdf

Interesting read: It's quite surprising that they didn't start with a lower dose for Tusko the elephant.

> I'm curious if they tried dosing an animal and a human at the same time to see how human-animal interaction and communication is affected.

Well, they did that with dolphins. http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2014/jun/08/the-dolph... (CTRL-F LSD) Apparently dolphins don't really react to LSD. Read the whole article, it's pretty weird.

>One LSD-affected baboon or chimpanzee in a group of unaffected animals creates havoc by disregarding the hierarchies of the group.

Now you know why it's illegal.

I find it interesting that this substance is psychoactive in so many animals, from hornets to frogs to humans. Are there any other examples of something like this?

Alcohol: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50tlF3kGbT4

Spiders on drugs: http://www.trinity.edu/jdunn/spiderdrugs.htm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHzdsFiBbFc

You find it interesting? Interesting enough to justify mentally torturing animals?

This is cruelty disguised as science.

A video would be nice :(

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PpccpglnNf0

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