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Subway Hijinks

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Here's why this is disgusting:

Reviewing their Second Avenue Subway promises, one thinks of the solemn and almost-always-broken treaties made with Native Americans, or what historian Helen Hunt called "The Shame of a Nation." The Second Avenue Subway could be called "The Shame of a City" — and of its political class across generations.

Compare the genocide of a continent of indigenous Americans to an overcrowded commute? Really?

I read this article while I was still living in NYC and those ads become infinitely more annoying once I knew the historical background.

That said, I'm not sure why all of these old Mises articles are floating up to the top page.

Because mises is the light at the end of this tunnel of irrationality we are in. Eventually, the world is going to end up exactly where they describe and everyone is going to wonder how we got there.

People have said similar things about Marxism, Christianity, and Manifest Destiny. Forgive me for taking the wait-and-see approach to this one.

We don't have the time or the resources to "wait and see." Additionally, we aren't waiting and seeing, we are printing trillions of dollars.

You even have to wait and see, just look at history. What mises describes has happened countless times already. One particularly popular austrian school student has predicted many collapses just a year or two before their occurrence.

  Don't wait and see
  Study history!
  The world will be better
  for you
  and for me

One particularly popular austrian school student has predicted many collapses just a year or two before their occurrence.

citation needed!

http://marketsandeconomy.blogspot.com/2008/08/ron-paul-predi...

I supposed that the HN readers are genuinely interested in the story I picked from the Mises daily archive.

That being said, I only picked stories that I think HN might find interesting.

I'm approximately as Anarcho-Capitalist as one comes... and I wish I would stop seeing mises.org info on HN. It may not be the "wrong" venue, but it's decidedly inappropriate.

Why not? What is your beef with posting interesting articles from mises.org, even if it is the most radical libertarian website as they come?

It is not within the purview of HN. I almost always completely agree with everything posted at mises.org. That doesn't mean that I am interested in "converting" the denizens of news.ycombinator.com.

http://ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

I did not see anywhere in the guideline that say political stories are prohibited, just that they have to be gratifying hackers' intellectual curiosity.

Does these submissions that made the front page sound uninteresting to you?

http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1187459

http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1172670

So maybe I am responsible for a series of deadly interesting mises.org submission, but I still fail to see why it should be banned.

Easy on the over-reaction. I've never asked anyone to be banned for anything. I've said that, even as the articles align with my political philosophy (and, yes, are interesting to me)... they should stop being both posted and upvoted (nee encouraged) here.

Nothing more; nothing less.

Let me say that I am not interested in converting anyone into anything. I am a libertarian myself and I would at least love to spread the knowledge of libertarian philosophy and make people aware about the dangers of large government. I would also like people to know that politicians have not arrived from heaven, they are regular people like you and me, they care about their own self interest first (staying in power) and it's dangerous to think of them as saviors or messiah.

I haven't had much sleep, so my apologies if I'm just misunderstanding, but this part:

I am a libertarian myself and I would at least love to spread the knowledge of libertarian philosophy and make people aware about the dangers of large government. I would also like people to know that politicians have not arrived from heaven, they are regular people like you and me, they care about their own self interest first (staying in power) and it's dangerous to think of them as saviors or messiah.

sounds like "I just want to inform people of my belief system and hopefully they'll start believing it too", which I feel is more or less synonymous with "I want to convert people".

I mean, if I ran across a post like:

Let me say that I am not interested in converting anyone into anything. I would at least love to spread the knowledge of Marxist philosophy and make people aware of the dangers of their corporate overlords.

I would be rather confused at the apparent contradiction between the two sentences.

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