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I know it _just_ launched but oh my god how do you launch such a slow site. I'm trying to load the "System.Drawing" API docs and Chrome inspector just shows a GET pending alongside a _lot_ of analytics and marketing calls being made. I waited to see how long it'd take, 30s to load the page: http://i.imgur.com/Z6y1ulSr.png

Anyway, ignoring the launch issues: My #1 annoyance with MSFT documentation is sub-classes being on a different page. If you want to call a DirectX method which takes 4 inputs, you need to open up a new tab for each of those inputs to see the possible values / etc. I hate it, very very much. I hope their new documentation doesn't have this issue, I'll check back again in a few weeks to see if I can actually load pages on this site.

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Thanks for the feedback! I am a PM on the docs team and will direct your feedback right now to the engineering team to look into the perf issue.

If you disable javascript, the site works and loads in ~50ms. You should consider deleting all/most of the JS :)

I am forwarding all this feedback to engineering, we're on it :) Thanks for diagnosing potential causes!

It is nice to see MS people out and approachable.

Generally speaking, as I posted in another child comment in the same thread, this is the biggest let down of MS redesign of the last year and led to a huge backlash in a HN article that escapes me.

If your JS hangs my browser for static content, I avoid your page and recommend others do too. I doubt I am the only one!

As someone who works in IT and generally does not like opening pages with JS full on (yes, I am one of those NoScript uBlock elitists), it is insulting that almost no KB article or other main page will load without throwing an enable JS blanket.

It has been discussed here before. As an IT professional, the only system that upsets me more than Microsoft on this point is Symantec. I expect clean minimalist doc pages from system dev and anti-virus companies. I do not need fancy MVVM pages and tracking JS to know what you fixed in your latest bug release, thank you!

other main page will load without throwing an enable JS blanket

I expect clean minimalist doc pages from system dev

You're in luck. The documents that are being discussed work without javascript enabled.

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/dotnet/core/api/index

Click on "System"

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/dotnet/core/api/System

Scroll down and click on "Array"

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/dotnet/core/api/system.arra...

Scroll down and click on "OverflowException"

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/dotnet/core/api/system.over...

etc... all without javascript.

You also want to work on your SEO. Because I couldn't find a search box that searched all documentation on my iPad, I googled

    toarray site:docs.microsoft.com

That produces 3 hits, all on JavaScript source maps, for example https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-identity-manager/...

Noted, we'll work on fixing that. Thanks for the flag!

Ever since the launch of 10 Microsoft's methodology seems to be all about analytics.

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