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Fair point. I guess by smart I'm thinking "least work for best grades" but that's a very loose definition.

Also - it's a very small sample size. And if I look more broadly... 2 of the seemingly "dumbest jocks" I knew in college went on to become doctors, one at the Mayo clinic. So perhaps their intelligence was showing in other areas until they got out of school.

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Similarly, one of the 'dumb jocks' from my high school just graduated with a PhD from Harvard, which means humans are awful at estimating the intelligence of others.

Or, more specifically, humans are awful at estimating the intelligence of others when they assume those with a special degree are more intelligent.

Or, you know, someone obtaining a PhD breaks the "dumb jock" mould without necessarily being more or less intelligent whomever it is that you are referring to.

Anyone who wasted precious time to get Phd is a retard in real world brosky.

Anyone who wasted precious keystrokes to type a word like "retard," never mind "brosky," is in no position to speak down to PhDs.

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