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> No, it isn't. There is Google Play, Microsoft, Amazon, and a whole host of other app stores out there.

Apple has banned all of those from iOS. It allows no third party app stores.

> Remember, the market is mobile devices altogether, not just iOS devices.

You cannot just tack on the word "remember" to make something an established fact. We don't know what the scope of future legal decisions will be until they're in fact made.

> Which will not happen, because you can't have a monopoly on your own platform.

You, nor I, have any way of knowing or proving that. This will likely go to SCOTUS in our lifetime, until that happens we won't know the scope of what is a monopolistic market.

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"Apple has banned all of those from iOS. It allows no third party app stores."

Which is irrelevant, as Spotify can still sell apps through those stores. Remember, the market is mobile as a whole, not just iOS.

"You cannot just tack on the word "remember" to make something an established fact. We don't know what the scope of future legal decisions will be until they're in fact made."

It is currently an established fact. If that changes, then we will have to revisit. But as of now, it stands.

> It is currently an established fact. If that changes, then we will have to revisit. But as of now, it stands.

It hasn't been ruled on. So, no, it hasn't been established.

> Remember, the market is mobile as a whole, not just iOS.

Why are you copying and pasting? I won't reply to this again, you already posted this above.

"Why are you copying and pasting? I won't reply to this again, you already posted this above."

Yet, you continue to say the same thing in every one of your comments, trying to define the market so as to ignore other mobile OSes. If you're going to post the same thing, then expect to get the same responses.

>Why are you copying and pasting?

Rephrasing the same thing, while refusing to understand terms with clear formal definitions, is not that different from copying and pasting.

There is no formal definition for what we're discussing, that's the entire point. A market has no fixed definition, it is up to a court to define it.

It was a copy/paste, they changed literally one word, and ignored my response to that same point above.

That's not true at all. The market is very clearly all of mobile software. You do not need a court to define that.

Anything stopping people from buying non-Apple smart phones?

Yes. It's quite similar to what stops people from simply moving to a new city to escape a local monopoly.

What are you talking about? Android phones are sold everywhere that iPhones are sold.

Do they run your purchased iOS software?

Play your purchased iTunes movies locked with Fairplay DRM?

Read your purchased iBooks?

Read your personal documents, passwords, and data locked into iCloud?

Synchronize with your other Apple iCloud-only devices?

At some point, product tying results in lock-in far more costly to escape than, say, a video game console with platform-only titles.

This is standard practice and applies to Android too.

You can't read Google books on ios?

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