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I would think that with Zimmerman and Callas that there could have been the chance to create a secure android. If it was possible I would say they should have been the guys, with recent departures I would say that they are no longer interested in that vision of the product.

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Yeah I thought the same thing. Although, if Telegram is any indication, mass market is not a matter of how strong your implementation is, more of a marketing/business problem to be solved.

I think that is the most depressing part...

Is Telegram not secure?

No, it's not.

not entirely true... its authentication can be subverted allowing impersonation.

but its a lot more secure than some....

At a minimum, they've made a number of choices which go against (fairly widely considered) good cryptographic principles.

This in itself wouldn't even be that bad if they weren't then trying pretty hard to convince the general public that it's super secure with massively flawed stunts as explained here: https://moxie.org/blog/telegram-crypto-challenge/

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