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First study to explore language and LSD since the 1960s

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Isn't it quite obvious that in any "coldwar type" scenario it's advantageous to ban civilian research on anything you don't want you enemies to also get their hands on? At least if: (a) you're arrogant enough to believe civilian researches will not outsmart military ones, or (b) you believe that what you got so far is "good enough" for military applications, or (c) you think that this might be helpful forcing scientists passionate about the banned fields to work for the military.

Dunno which of do above is actually true about this topic, but for anything "banned in the '60s" it's important to think about the perspective of things in the 60s. Asides from the hippies and new age, this was the era when US military planners contemplated an unprovoked first nuclear strike on USSR simply because they knew the Russians where behind on ICBM tech but not for long. And on the other side the Russians where desperate developing bio and other unconventional weapons because they knew they were behind on nukes and needed something to fill the damn "gap". Psycho-chemical weapons combined with a new level of psychological warfare could've been seen as a pretty enticing "gap filler" material.

It's bizarre that LSD (among other things) have been banned from researchers for this long. Recently as research has been starting to happen again we've seen such interesting and successful applications for MDMA and Ketamine.

I can't wait to find out what these drugs can do over the next few decades.

"This can lead to a loss of boundaries between the self and the environment, as might occur in certain psychiatric illnesses."

It still rings clear that altered consciousness is something seen as illness or being deficit in som way by the scientific community.

This points out a deeper ignorance within the collective human psyche and is an attitude has to go before any real study can be done.

I agree with you completely. Francis Crick was using LSD during the days when he discovered DNA's double helix geometry. To me, this means psychedelics are for more than just manic, unhinged thoughts, or illusions of grandeur. It can actually provide intelligent people with valuable perspective, insight, and creativity.

Considering societies current state, a change in perspective wouldn't be harmful. But people are afraid of change...

"Drop acid, not bombs!"

> It can actually provide intelligent people with valuable perspective, insight, and creativity.

Legend has it that Bill Atkins was inspired to create HyperCard by an LSD trip.

> "This can lead to a loss of boundaries between the self and the environment, as might occur in certain psychiatric illnesses."

Or in deep meditation.

Typically one uses keywords in a grant application (and its associated scientific papers) to signal relevance to a funding agency. In the USA, "Psychiatric illnesses" is an NIH paper, while "figuring out consciousness" is a NSF paper, "augmenting soldier's consciousnesses" is a DARPA paper, etc.

How can I sign up for a study on LSD effects? I really just want to do acid legally, and further human knowledge on psychedelics.

Yeah, the latter is definitely a plus, isn't it.

Url changed from http://time.com/4463136/lsd-research-creativity-depression/, which points to this.

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Why not link http://dx.doi.org/10.1080/23273798.2016.1217030 directly then?

For stories about specialist research, we've found that HN works better with the most substantive popular article, plus a link to the paper in the comments. It's true that the 'most substantive' popular article is often still rather weak, making more out of the paper than there is, etc., but HN readers tend to point this out in the thread, and the alternative (linking to the paper first) doesn't seem to work as well for discussion–the barrier feels too sheer.

It's different with papers in fields where the HN audience tends to have a lot of specialists, such as computing.

Edit: contradicting what I said above, here's a counterexample: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12361666. There are always exceptions.

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