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It seems that using Kubernetes is definitely more mature and usable than Swarm. But how would you rate the other Docker projects, like docker-machine and docker-compose. Does Kubernetes also subsume those projects?

These seem to be way more mature than Swarm.

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Kubernetes is definitely the technically correct solution. The only really hard part is getting started, but if you have a cloud service provider that runs a Kubernetes cluster for you then you don't need to worry about that. :P

I don't know if Kubernetes is more usable - it's a MONSTER to host yourself.

Other docker projects suffer from various levels of similar issues. Docker-machine is nice, but has a ton of rough edges, especially when spinning up host on AWS. It feels like the programmer(s) of machine never used AWS beyond the simplest use case.

Kubernetes isn't particularly hard to host.

Bootstrap etcd

start kubelet

place api, proxy, scheduler and controller definitions manifests folder.

If you're running infrastructure that deals with problems such as maintaining the health of applications then it's going to generally be a whole lot more complex than that.

Did you see https://github.com/kubernetes/minikube ?

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