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It's not a rewriting of history. The dibblegate conflict occurred at the end of 2014.

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/scalaz/9X_putSGoCY

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/scalaz/code$20of$...

Calling Tony Morris a rapist was probably the highlight of the affair: https://twitter.com/shajra/status/544712807220908032

Up until they realized they couldn't take over the community, Lars Hupel and Miles Sabin had no publicly stated plans to leave Scalaz.

Cats initial commit is early 2015.

https://github.com/typelevel/cats/commits/master?page=74

I have no idea why everyone dislikes them so much. I use Scalaz, and it's pretty great. From what I've seen Cats is nearly the same thing, I just saw no reason to switch. In what way do you believe Cats is significantly different from Scalaz, beyond the fact that you apparently dislike the people involved?

Incidentally, scalaz-streaming was also pretty nice - mathematically I liked it but it was simply not as performant as Akka streaming. I'd love to use it if it becomes fast.

I have no idea what you are even trying to argue.

Why would they create cats while they still had hope to save scalaz from its community? No need to spin some crazy conspiracy.

> you apparently dislike the people involved

LOL WTF? That guy has single-handedly destroyed more than one community already. It's not like it's some unfortunate thing that accidentally happens. It has happened before, and will keep happening until he is shown the door for good.

The rest of the scalaz community are enabling him to keep doing his toxic shit. The faster scalaz goes the way of Lift, the better.

I judge people for using scalaz. If you think it is acceptable to keep enabling him, you are a bad human being.

If you scroll up, you'll see I was replying to this:

it's desperate desire to turn Scala into Haskell ends up turning an awesome ML-inspired language into a vastly inferior religious (...ahem, pure) language. But Cats and Shapeless aren't Scalaz.

I claim that from a technical perspective they are more or less equivalent and they only forked due to a feud. So if you want to avoid Haskell-inspired constructs in Scalaz, Cats won't be much to your liking either.

Glad we are on the same page!

And if you scroll up, you'll see that this wasn't me.

I don't have issues with Haskell-inspired constructs, I have issues with Haskell-inspired behavior.

Can you let me which open source community you prefer? Clearly It's the more welcoming one.

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