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@pb did you watch comma.ai call out Cruise? It seems that comma.ai thinks Cruise lacks urgency, are sell outs. They clearly communicated that Cruise essentially had nothing.

It going to be interesting to see if a outsider like Hotz can outperform a well funded YC startup.

A person who hacked the PS3, iPhone versus whatever Vogt accomplished.

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they aren't really competitors, comma.ai offers level 2 autonomous retrofitting for certain cars and Cruise pivoted from initially a similar offering to comma.ai at a higher price point to a level 4 system that uses lidar and is sold to car companies or in this case exclusive to GM with no direct to consumer offering

you think comma.ai is legit? seems kind of pointless ...

Hotz has described his product as 'fancy cruise control', and it isn't much more than that. I think he's about as legit as he says he is.

If he gets it out for under $1000 before 2017 he's a man of his word, and I think he'll do it.

After pulling off that impressive stunt, though, he's going to have to figure out how to turn comma.ai into a real company somehow. I'm not sure how he's going to do that.

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