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> Very minimal and aesthetically beautiful, but still powerful and customizable.

None of which is helpful when the battery is dead. The iPhone still wins on battery life. Maybe the new gen Androids will fix that. I hope so.

Edit: I added some data for battery tests in a comment below. Looks like my Android experience is out of date.

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3G call time (minutes):[1]

HTC10: 1859 LG G5: 1579 S7: 1492 iPhone 7: 712

The results would be closer on pretty much any other test, but it's hard to do an apples to apples comparison on anything other than talk time. Most review sites still find that this generation of Android flagships have longer web browsing times than the iPhone 7.

1: https://blogs.which.co.uk/technology/smartphones/iphone-7-fi...

iPhone 7+ is a much better comparison considering the size of the first two devices.

Not really.

HTC10: 145.9 x 71.9

iPhone7: 138.3 x 67.1 (-7.6, -4.7 vs HTC10)

iPhone7+: 158.2 x 77.9 (+12.7, +6 vs HTC10)

All these phones are only two dimensional? Did Jony Ive design them?

I see how you conveniently avoided listing their thickness. HTC 10 is 20% thicker then iPhone 7 plus.

Unlike the other dimensions, the difference between ridiculously thin and absurdly thin isn't terribly user-visible, especially given that many people will increase the thickness of their phones by more than that simply through their choice of protective case.

Does not matter, original point was that you should compare apples to apples, and comparing HTC 10 to iPhone 7 plus seems more fair than to iPhone 7 due to their dimensions.

> Unlike the other dimensions, the difference between ridiculously thin and absurdly thin isn't terribly user-visible

What about the difference between ridiculously bulky and fat and normal size?

Because it doesn't matter when you hold it in your hand. (At least 1-2 mm doesn't, for me.)

That 712 minutes is probably as much as I will talk on the phone for the entire time I own it.

I think this is very user-specific.

My wife has had two iphones (5, 6). Both die much faster than my androids (many many hours). We use them about the same.

Anecdotes aside, let's find some data:

http://www.expertreviews.co.uk/mobile-phones/1402071/best-ph...

http://www.gsmarena.com/battery-test.php3

https://www.statista.com/statistics/280508/smartphone-batter...

Looks like Apple is middle of the pack among premium phones these days. My experience was with NEXUS 4 and 5, which would often be out of juice when I needed them.

"Anecdotes aside, let's find some data:"

FWIW: I think it's pretty sad that almost all of these phones are certainly collecting this data (even if only in internal dogfood populations, etc), but then the stats we get are based on random things like "talk time" or ...

I wonder if anyone started a public app project that auto-tracks and uploads battery stats that folks can participate in.

Nexus 4 was released 2012 while Nexus 5 in 2013.

Believe me, batteries and power management on Android has improved since 2013.

Nexus 5x vastly improved battery life over the 5.

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