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Don't know how juices in US are, but here in Europe there's a lot of sugar inside.

There's a lot of sugar inside fruit.

Normally you would only eat one orange. A glass of orange juice is equivalent to the juice of several oranges, with little or none of the accompanying fiber to slow down sugar absorption. Sure it's nutritious, but it's also a fructose bomb in a cup.

There is sugar in vegetables as well. Should we all stop eating those?

You probably shouldn't drink the juice of a dozen carrots, if you'd like it expressed in a way that doesn't miss the point

fruitarian: a person who eats only fruit. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fruitarianism

Fruit and vegetable consumption and all-cause mortality: a dose-response analysis http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23803880

Did I just blow your mind?

Well, not really. If it were about juice, it might have.

It may be interesting to note that I am a vegetarian so I am far from opposed to eating lots of fruit.

Juices in the US are probably similar. For example, Mott's apple juice has 28g of sugar in 8oz (236ml).

For comparison, Coca-Cola "original" has 26g sugar in 8oz (236ml).

They are full of sugars too, for example this 100% Apple juice that I have is 28g of sugars per 240ml. But most fruit juices that they sell aren't really fruit juices and labels are really deceptive. For my kids, I mix fruit juices with equal part water to help reduce sugars.

Fruit juices are fruits with lots of the good stuff removed but I still consider fruits as desserts and not very healthy...

The US has specific regulations requiring fruit juices to declare what percentage of the product is fruit juice.

http://www.fda.gov/Food/GuidanceRegulation/GuidanceDocuments...

That doesn't mean that they aren't sweet, but the labeling should reliably state the fruit juice content.

They do but usually the front of the label is a little deceiving and doesn't state the juice content, like "original 100% vitamin C" instead of something like "27% cranberry juice": http://blogs.longwood.edu/shakingitupatbreakfasttime/files/2... ... And I have seen worst... I'll take pictures next time I go to the grocery store... Also, many times you get juice of fruits that aren't even pictured on the label.

I suppose my point is more that you don't need a great deal of information to understand how to buy fruit juice. Just buy the one with a clear claim about 100% fruit juice on the label.

Given that the blends aren't necessarily worse than the pure juice nutritionally, I'm not sure what you do for the consumer that can't tell the difference between "100% Vitamin C" and "100% Fruit Juice".

I have another here, it says on the front label: 100% Apple juice, from concentrate, with added ingredient... http://www.bjs.com/wellsley-farms-apple-juice-96-oz-2-pk.pro...

How can they say 100% apple juice with added ingredient (even if it is only vitamin C that they are adding in very small quantity...)

> I still consider fruits as desserts and not very healthy...

Maybe I'm misunderstanding, but why wouldn't fruits as desserts be healthy?

Because there is too much sugar, i.e. too much unneeded energy, and additionally, that sugar is in a form that absorbs very quickly.

Why would fruit be healthy? They're living off the good reputation from the phrase "fruits and vegetables", but fructose isn't good for you and the vitamins are overrated.

fruitarian: a person who eats only fruit. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fruitarianism

Fruit and vegetable consumption and all-cause mortality: a dose-response analysis http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23803880

I appreciate that the Wikipedia link just says not to do it.

>I still consider fruits as desserts and not very healthy... That is literally the stupidest thing I have ever heard about diet advice. Well done on being fully brainwashed.

go read some more then, I'm sure you'll find many things... ;)

Eating too much fruit is an easy way to get fat. I wouldn't go so far as to call them "unhealthy" as a blanket statement, but to your body fructose from an apple is the same thing as fructose from cola.

I do not think it's faire to say "Europe". In France, the situation seems fine.

I'm not sure how one makes a juice with less sugar in it other than watering it down. Putting fresh fruit into a juicer still yields a drink with high amount of sugar.

Fruit juice by nature is almost 100% sugar even with no sugar added. I don't think there would be any difference between France and the rest of the world, unless you dilute it significantly.

Not 100 % sugar though... almost 90 % water and 10 % sugar, give or take, depending on fruit and variety.

When I discuss the nutritional content of my chicken-noodle soup, I don't mention the water content unless I'm comparing it to someone else's soup.

I think you misunderstood. Natural juices contain a lot of sugar, and that's what you've got in France, too.

For instance, apple and orange juice contains approximately 10 % sugar.

Juice drinks are then another matter; they are juice diluted with water and added sugar and flavourings, thus nutritionally even worse even though the sugar content is roughly similar.

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