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And there is strong evidence that Kratom curtails alcohol addiction. Kratom is amazing. It has anti-depressive effects that once fully understand I believe will usher in a new and vastly superior wave of anti-depressants. To schedule 1 this plant is beyond insane. Banning it is the bunny brained idea of a lunatic. The DEA is completely out of touch with reality or some special interest is pulling their strings.

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Strong evidence? Citations please.

On mobile now, so can't give examples, but do a search on Google scholar and you really will find plenty evidence there

Really? I tried doing this search and can't find much. I'm pretty up on the state of the scientific literature on kratom, because I'm in the industry, curious, and have been actively working at improving the dreadful wikipedia article.

There's this case, http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0924933811... , but it's a case of one. There are some cases of simultaneous kratom and alcohol dependence, but that's not the same thing.

Even the peer reviewed evidence for kratom working for opiate withdrawal is quite weak, despite boatloads of anecdotal evidence. There are studies in mice and some observational studies, but nothing that meets the standards of an FDA clinical trial. Kratom has just not really been seriously studied.

If I'm missing some papers or a body of research, please let me know.

Sorry, I thought I was replying to a thread about kratom's efficacy on pain, not alcohol dependence. Not sure if I hit reply on the wrong thread or just misread it!

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