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The stripping of freedom, interaction with the rest of society, the effects on the imprisoned individual's family and their finances are the same.

Would you dare say that if the USA droned an innocent person based on signature data in Afghanistan his death would be of a higher quality than the Talib killing him?

If you do not want to make such comparisons then answer one question: Which country's actions in recent history ( <30 years ) were more beneficial to improving trade, alleviation of poverty and development of poor countries across the world - the USA or China?

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China's PLA has a great track record of winning battles....in China. Ya, the USA military is focused outward, but they aren't killing a bunch of people in their own country.

When you are looking for a country to live in, that is important. You can tell what people think by the immigration rates between the USA and china.

What do you think are the opinions of the families of Eric Garner, Tamir Rice, John Crawford, Freddie Gray, Sandra Bland, and countless others about the benevolence of the US government? say, compared to the millions of Chinese that have been lifted from poverty since Deng Xiaoping was in power?

How does the US middle class feel about the supposed superiority in "democracy", "freedom" and "quality of life" that the USA provides?

How many kilometers in railway and road has the USA built in poor countries recently, still compared to China? How many hospitals and stadiums? How many schools?

Let's not talk about the USA middle class, they are staying put. It is the chinese middle class moving to the USA, if the CCP is so wise, why can't they convince their own people to stay?

Last time everybody checked, China's population was still around a billion or so. Migration is a natural process. Chinese migration is bigger because their population and the amount of wealth that population has been able to achieve is just bigger. Therefore their mobility is just bigger. they are not moving exclusively to the USA.

Last time everybody checked, the US middle class was sliding into poverty.

But you're uncomfortable talking about subjects that paint the USA in an unfavorable light.

Americans aren't fleeing America, also wealth inequality is shooting up in one country much more than the other. I'll let you figure out which one.

In the USA some people are rich while all the others are getting poor, in China some people are rich while the rest are being lifted from poverty every day. Figured it out already. Have you? Obviously not. Did the US government allocate several billions of dollars for getting poor villagers out of poverty just last week or are they all still plotting to cut more and more from social security and food stamps as always?

and the only reason US citizens don't leave is because they can't. The US makes it stupidly hard for US citizens to renounce citizenship. http://fortune.com/2016/08/11/us-citizens-renounce/

You are extremely ill-informed about the suffering of your own people.

China's gini coefficient has been rising rapidly at the same time it has been getting rich, which is why migrant workers living squalor lived right next to (or even in the basement of) our upscale apartment building in Beijing. China has been getting rich, but the money is distributed in an increasing uneven fashion, and didn't get better during my 9 years there.

And as long as you want to fling around ad hominens...

Are you trying to argue that you housed ALL of China's migrant workers near your apartment building or in its basement? Or have you seen a few poor people and thus deducted that ALL of China's poor are not getting better opportunities?

Have you ever seen pictures of Shenzhen when it was being built? Do you know who built it? Migrant workers who got better opportunities.

How many US cities have risen in the last 50 years? Or maybe you'd like to change the subject yet again...

Catching up on economic growth is nothing to do with political repression. Racism is a social problem, and not a government repression. China has a lot of racism too, but it's more hidden, because the pres is not free.

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