MacBookPro vs. Surface Book
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remember he hasn't actually used the new Macbook pro.. or the new surface book. He's just basing this on the old versions of the laptop and adding his own thoughts to it
"Processing Power
This is difficult to do a fair comparisons, especially when comparing prices later, because, while for the MacBook Pros we know exactly their clock speed and if they are dual-core or quad-core, there are no specs for the new Surface Book. I read somewhere they used the same processors of the previous model, so dual-core i5 2.4Ghz and dual-core i7 2.6Ghz. Which is more than the revamped MBP whose i5 is 2.0Ghz and i7 is 2.4Ghz, but (much) less than the new models which have an i5 with 2.9Ghz and i7 up to 3.3Ghz and even a quad-core i7 2.9Ghz for the 15”.
Winner: MacBook Pro"
relevant portion: there are no specs for the new Surface Book. I read somewhere they used the same processors of the previous model
I don't understand how you can be happy with Google collecting anything/everything you do on an Android, but then complain when Microsoft does a fraction of the data collection.
But the real problem is that Windows 10 is simply awful to use.
I completely mirror your thoughts. Windows 10 is an absolute disaster. I've lovingly used Windows since version 3.1.
The 4k screen is basically unusable when I'm plugged into an external monitor - no setting seems to get HiDPI and regular playing nicely. Windows has automatically updated the drivers at least three times, leaving it in a non bootable state, which has taken numerous hours to fix each time. System restore points are now absolutely vital.
The trackpad is completely unusable, I find myself accidentally moving files and folders about when I really didn't want to.
Forced upgrades are a disaster. They always seem to happen at horrendously inconvenient times. There's nothing quite like having three or four people standing around while you wait for Windows to install updates for a completely indeterminate amount of time.
Adverts (or what certainly look them) on my start bar... really?
The absolute mess of numerous different styles of settings screen - I used to know my way round Windows like a Pro. Now I have no clue when I click a setting if it's going to show me classic style window or a fullscreen Metro options screen.
I have not had your problem with 4k and 1080p mine plays nice with each other. I think it might be a driver issue on your graphics card.
Sounds more like malware than windows 10.
http://www.howtogeek.com/224805/the-start-menu-should-be-sac...
The autoupdate scheduling is terrible. You can set a "active hours" window where it won't try to force reboot on you, but it's limited to 8 hours, and there's no provision for setting different active hours on weekdays vs weekends. Because obviously the usage profile on my home computer is the same on Wednesday as it is on Saturday.
The autoupdates load garbage onto your computer (Candy Crush Soda Saga?) even if you've previously uninstalled it and obviously didn't want it.
I paid >$100 for this, and it's stuffed with ads. Solitaire and Minesweeper are freemium apps with a subscription of $10/year to get rid of ads. Seriously? Minesweeper needs to be a subscription?
I've been running Windows on my desktops, but I've lately relegated it to gaming only, and am dual booting Linux for programming and content creation work.
Windows 7 was great, it stayed out of the way and let me get my work done. Windows 10 has a feeling that I have to work around the computer to trick it into letting me be productive.
I've been using Windows 10 before it had a public release and I've never seen anything like this on my machines. It seems like you really have a mess on yours.
I also removed anything that I didn't want from the Start menu. I don't understand why you wouldn't do the same.
It sounds like the problem here is not really Windows 10.
I know you're going to tell me I should just close the advertisement and the problem here isn't really Windows 10, but the problem is that the ads exist in the first place after I paid $120 for it.
Is this true? You have to have a paid subscription to get what is the equivalent of some 1992 public domain game?
Why that sort of advertising has been baked into a $120 operating system, I have no idea. I guess someone got greedy and figured nobody would quit the OS over it. Their Weather app is full of ads too, last I checked.
It's a large factor in why I've switched to Linux as much as possible, though MS still got my money for a W10 license so it's not much of a victory.
http://www.pcgamer.com/windows-10-solitaire-requires-a-subsc...
The free license was tied to my motherboard which promptly died, so I had to buy a new one at full price.
EDIT: And besides, just because they're not an essential feature doesn't make me happy that the previously included things have been removed. Say what you will about Apple's hardware, but they went the opposite direction with bundled software. Keynote/Pages/Numbers used to be an optional package ($50 IIRC), but shifted to an included feature. They don't even have banner/video ads shoved all over.
You are really trying to get me out of the bounds of acceptable decorum of this site. Really??? I see a very prominent conditional in your reply. I suppose MS has a right to screw over people who got free upgrades (not really), but I got to pay for my copy of Windows with a new computer a few weeks ago and still get the privilege of seeing all the anti-consumer crap that comes with it. I'd also venture a guess that proportion of users who aren't using free upgrade offer will increase with time - how is your argument supposed to age, Brandon?
In fact, the whole point isn't even to make money from them, but to support the Windows developer ecosystem by promoting other apps and jump starting a viable ad network.
Also note that Apple and Google do the same thing.
Games came with the OS therefore they are part of the OS. If you didn't want them to be part of the OS then you shouldn't have included them. If I'm paying premium then I don't want to be INSULTED with ads. Nor with telemetry that's borderline spyware which was my outburst more about. All that is beside the point which was that you're making a dubious argument that applies to only a portion of people.
> but to support the Windows developer ecosystem by promoting other apps and jump starting a viable ad network.
And to that I say fire entire marketing team. How will a couple thousand fools that bought $10 upgrades in Minesweeper help jump start anything? Does Microsoft employ underpants gnomes because the plan doesn't follow. Marketing team is burning bridges way faster than foss software releasing portion of Microsoft is making them, there's no point in jump starting anything if marketing shortcuts any trust customers could possibly have in the platform. Every one of my friends doesn't trust Windows 10, even nontechy ones and the best/worst part is, I didn't have to help them.
> Also note that Apple and Google do the same thing.
If they are super abusive then so can be Microsoft. Flawless logic. I'll add that Google and Apple started their BS on mobile platforms which were for some time their own thing and people didn't care if they were soiling their own turf. The trouble with Microsoft is that they are exporting this excrement to PC segment of computing platforms which had established norms that were in place for decades that you are now breaking. If you kept telemetry/ads BS only on Windows Phones literally nobody would care.
Updates should never reinstall anything you've removed (including Candy Crush).
And yet it did. Looking into it, MS is playing the "bug" card and has said it won't happen next time. I'm not sure whether to believe them, or if it was a "we wanted to see if we could get away with it" approach to getting more ad installs.
https://rcpmag.com/articles/2016/08/24/anniversary-update-re...
While it shouldn't be reinstalling apps you've removed, they still intend to automatically add new "promoted apps" to your start menu. But each time they sell a slot, you should only need to remove it the one time and it won't come back.
I stick to Enterprise though, maybe that's why?
The OS only sets a deadline for the reboot (where it will force if you postpone too long) if the update includes a critical security update.
Firmware and core driver updates also require a reboot, but don't have deadlines and the schedule depends on the hardware vendor.
Oh, and if your machine is in the Windows Insider program, all build upgrades have deadlines so you hit the "forced reboot" much more often than a normal user.
Are you on Insider builds? If so, you should expect more aggressive updates and bugs.
By default it helps conserve bandwidth by downloading updates once and sharing among other machines on your network.
I have similarly bloated Windows directories in other computers. It also shouldn't be my problem to Google how to delete defunct Windows system files or whatnot.
Also, the default setting is for Windows to use your bandwidth to share their system files or update files to other windows computers anywhere in the world. Not just your network. So it is in effect, using extra upload bandwidth that you would have otherwise not used. In fact, you have to set your connection to metered for this to be disabled.
You do not have to set your connection to metered to disable P2P updates, there's a setting just for that, and there's really no reason to disable it in the first place.
I disabled sharing my bandwidth because I feel like it was not in good faith of Microsoft to make it a hidden default, and it should have been an explicit opt in to do that. That and the constant nagging for Windows 10, and hidden reinstallations of windows updates that I had uninstalled to prevent the nagging indicate a lack of respect that I don't appreciate as a customer.
Default on autoupdates is the proper setting. That we're even debating this in 2016 is kind of crazy.
I still prefer to use Ubuntu (I think it defaults to the Analog driver), but I need Windows sometimes.
This Apple announcement really lost me. Luckily i don't care about the OS (i dislike it, infact), i just want really nice hardware because i use this laptop for ~10h a day.
(And in turn I have to Ctrl-click because triple-click = middle-click isn't an option in Windows 10 for some bizarre reason.)
It's just ridiculously clear they don't have the consumer's best interest.
This is also a very old article, and leaves out the fact that since then MS has been shown to be a defender of user privacy and government transparency.
Gee, it's so easy to say things like that without qualifying them at all isn't it?
Here let me try: Android is such a total dumpster fire-privacy nightmare and usability nightmare. I wouldn't use an Android device if they were giving them away!
Hey, at least you can get update for Windows 10 without waiting on any carriers though, lol ;)
An update for it is available every night. A stable update comes in every few months. And a security update right after disclosure.
Windows 10 can shout "But ... Android!" all it wants to justify its own shoddy actions, but until the source code to Windows 10 is released, Windows 10 just doesn't have the same grounds for that argument.
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2. Android isn't a desktop OS. A desktop OS hiding behind an argument like, "But ... [some] people let that mobile OS get away with it! Why can't I do it too!?" ignores the difference between people using computers for leisure and convenience and people using computers for work.
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TL;DR: 1. At least with Android, you can turn whatever you don't like off. 2. Windows Phone's antics might be an apples to apples comparison against Android, but Windows Desktop isn't.
To be honest, I wish I had stuck with Apple, at least until Microsoft works out the kinks.
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that says it all :) Are you running you site from Surface Book?
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LOLOL
In the next iteration, next year, it's hard to say what I would choose, because a few big factors could change:
1. So many peripherals go USB-C, or I have enough such dongles, that the MBP's USB-C-only doesn't bother me as much.
2. The Bash shell in Windows is as seamless and well-supported as it is in OSX.
3. Apple adds some unpredictable game-changing feature to its laptop line.
4. Apple finally produces a new external Apple Display.
They presented a LG monitor during the event saying they partnered with LG to build it and presenting as the perfect monitor companion and ultimate dock for the MBP.
That's not entirely out of character for Apple to backstab its new partner by producing its own competing model, but considering that Apple just got out of that business, that looks unlikely.
Right after the media event, Apple has stated they're out of external display business.
That said, I probably use the SB more than the MBP these days, because I mainly use a desktop for dev work, and the SB is smaller and more convenient for non-work tasks around the house. But if I'm working remotely for a long time then the MBP is absolutely the device I'd take with me.
I may be an anomaly though. I might even consider a 17" version with a full keyboard and number pad if they offered it. My desktop is quad monitor, two of which are 39" 4K. I just like to have lots and lots of screen space.
Does the typical Mac developer care at all about physical / virtual function keys given their workflow? I would imagine not, but would love to hear about others' experiences here.
EDIT: Found one:
https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:eG1Z2o...
(Although the level of detail could be much worse.)
Each to their own, I guess?
I got a surface book several months ago, and it's kept me on windows. I was one more shitty laptop away from jumping ship to a macbook pro and linux desktop, but the surface showed me that a windows laptop doesn't need to be trash. They finally nailed the hardware, and while it had a rocky start (the first month or so was pretty iffy with bluescreens and I did have to return one due to the latch not working right) it's been smooth sailing ever since.
Pretty much all of my complaints about it have to do with windows the OS at this point (the most annoying one being that sleep is still absolute trash compared to macos. I was fucking floored when i closed a macbook once, left it on my desk unplugged for 2 weeks, and when I opened the screen it was right back where i left it within a second with like 40% battery left. Not booting up, not an image of what it was before while it started, literally right where I left it.)
So i need to stare at a black screen for a few seconds to see what it's going to do. (the macbook is literally on by the time it's fully opened)]
But even then I also have problems where the device will restart while it's hibernating or sleeping, or where it will tell me it needs to restart for an update literally minutes after I start it up.
It's a minor thing, but it's one of the examples of where the Apple side of things has prioritized that stuff working more than not, and it's clearly a "checkbox to check off" on the Windows side.
I never felt that it was a problem until I used a macbook. I had assumed that sleep and things like it just sucked with computers. It sucks on linux, it sucks on windows. I figured it just was doomed to suck. But when I started using a macbook every now and then, it blew me away when I could just open the lid, and have the computer there and running instantly every single time.
Basically, using the touch bar as a context-sensitive test runner. I'm spread across too many different editors and environments it's terribly annoying to try to find a set of keybindings that work in all of them.
Compares CPU Passmark score, GPU Flops, Display gamut Rec 2020.
Might be of interest.
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Website owners should really consider to reassess their application architecture.