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I'm surprised by how many of my non-US friends are calling Americans 'Stupid' right now on social media for voting for Trump.

I think that the Trump victory actually shows the opposite; that Americans are smart enough to think for themselves regardless of what the media tells them.

They got to the meat of the information without buying into all the spin that the media put around it.

I strongly disagree with several things that Trump stands for but I think that overall this is a really good outcome. It shows that the people are still in control - Not the media, not the celebrities, not the elites.

That is reassuring.

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You don't think this is the results of years of twisted information by news outlet like fox news and friends? I mean we're talking mostly white people living in the countryside voting to curb illegal immigration. We're talking about fairly unwealthy people voting for a tax-evading billionaire because they relate to him as a simple man. The media has a role to play for sure, but it's not as simple as "at least people aren't spoon fed left-leaning media bullshit."

It shouldn't be surprising though, because outsiders would only know as much as the media tells them. They have no vested interest, like the citizens do, in making an informed decision

While I never ever wanted Trump because of the geopolitical situation in eastern Europe, I can understand Americans who voted for him.

You can't turn a dead eye on half of the population, call them stupid, racist, bigoted (heck, some even argue here democracy doesn't work and the people who voted shouldn't be able to vote, go figure.) and then expect the worst habitual liar, a psycho candidate to win.

It was literally the easiest elections in the history for the Democrats, but somehow they were able to fuck up. Let's see what the future brings.

From a personal point of view, I hope Nato stays (somewhat) strong. Again, I understand the anger of your people for us, Europeans, outsourcing the defense budget to American taxpayers (while it does come with some benefits).

> I understand the anger of your people for us, Europeans, outsourcing the defense budget to American taxpayers (while it does come with some benefits).

This is not an act of altruism. US global hegemony dictates our military spending, regardless of what Europe does. We (at least the select few elite) reap the benefits of this arrangement. Hell, even the folks complaining in America aren't complaining about the money being funneled into the MIC in their district that creates good jobs to build weapons of war.

I guess I'm in strange position wanting U.S to police the world. Only because of Russia. But with Trump we will see, hopefully it's not new molotov - rippentrop.

"It shows that the white people are still in control - Not the blacks, not the hispanics, not women."

There I fixed it.

Please don't do this here.

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