Hacker News Reader

Comment by gapo | Hacker News Reader

This is what she says: "Yes, I want equal pay. No, I reject Trump’s “locker room” banter, the idea of a “wall” between the United States and Mexico and a plan to “ban” Muslims. But I trust the United States and don’t buy the political hyperbole — agenda-driven identity politics of its own — that demonized Trump and his supporters."

Trump’s “locker room” banter ? I don't buy the political hyperbole ?

I'm neutral on the election, but the theme I repeatedly see in a lot of Trump supporters is how they assume he does not mean what he says.

Personally I would hate if my manager said things that he did not want me to understand.

View on HN

I'm seeing that too. People are locking on a piece they like and hoping that he's just kidding about the rest.

She's hoping he'll be tough on radical extremists but that he's just kidding about banning muslims or creating a registry.

This.

He did a wonderful job of saying whatever people wanted to hear — even if he contradicted himself — and lots of people selected for what they liked.

I think it's fair to say that we have very little idea of what he'll actually do.

We don't have bright line ideological tests but we already pretty much have a registry of inbound travelers.

I say bright line test because many visas require an in person interview prior to travel. That's a big opportunity to have de facto tests for the 'wrong' sort of person.

I think registry he means is the proposed registry of all muslims in the US. Trump also mentioned that it should be illegal for muslims to not report their neighbors, family and friends for registration too.

The problem is that even if Trump creates no actual anti-Muslim policies, his supporters have been given the green light to do whatever hate crimes they want.

I'm seeing this too: people are locking on a piece they don't like and completely ignoring the rest.

Judgement is subtractive. We are only as wise as our weakest deductive link.

> Trump supporters [...] assume he does not mean what he says.

I read this elsewhere (they are not my own words) but I think it's applicable here: "The Left takes Trump literally but not seriously; the Right takes Trump seriously but not literally."

I think this can be illustrated in the response meme "the wall just got ten feet higher!". Trump's supporters often subtly mock him in other ways as well; off the top of my head there is the recent use of "bigly".

That's not entirely unprecedented. George W. Bush was well-known for sticking his foot in his mouth by making up words (e.g.: "strategery") and Joe Biden is seen as similarly dopey by the Left.

> George W. Bush was well-known for sticking his foot in his mouth by making up words (e.g.: "strategery")

Generally true, but "strategery" was actually coined by SNL writers for Will Ferrell, although it is frequently misattributed to Bush. The Bush administration did start using it internally tongue-in-cheek.

> I repeatedly see in a lot of Trump supporters is how they assume he does not mean what he says.

This.

Stated more eloquently by a media person recently....

>"The Left takes Trump literally but not seriously; the Right takes Trump seriously but not literally."

Reply on news.ycombinator.com