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The left talks about the Israel lobby. Certainly would not talk about a "Jewish lobby." http://www.counterpunch.org/2006/05/01/the-israel-lobby/

Far more important than some "Jewish lobby" is the white lobby. Beyond influential, and very happy as of late.

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That fact that you can't call it the Jewish lobby is exactly the squeamishness I'm referring to. The Jewish lobby are not at all shy about saying that they support Israel because they are Jewish. There are of course some Jews who claim to hold the opposite opinion because they are Jewish, but it is clear that the economic and political influence of Jewish Americans is overall pro-Israeli and pro-war, most recently advocating for a proxy war with Russia in Syria.

Also comparing three terms on google trends suggests the left haven't been nearly active enough in promoting either concept:

https://www.google.com/trends/explore?q=Jewish%20lobby,milit...

>That fact that you can't call it the Jewish lobby is exactly the squeamishness I'm referring to.

There's a pretty good reason for that apprehension. You're asserting that Jewish interests have disproportionate influence in American foreign policy. We know this is a stalking horse for claims of Jewish influence in other circles of society.

At that point, you're not "simply asking questions", you're promoting anti-Semitic propaganda.

The Jewish lobby and the Zionist lobby are two separate things.

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