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Mores change with time and place. Negligent malodourousness is to be avoided at all times and places.

Besides, he wasn't "creatively following the dictates of his inspiration". He was wimping out of the consequences of his 'inspiration'; man-up and shower. Unhygienic!

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> Unhygienic!

What definition of "hygiene" are we using?

As unpleasant as his smell may have been, when does a shower reduce the incidence of disease? (That's the medical definition of hygiene - Wikipedia - "In medicine, hygiene practices are employed as preventative measures to reduce the incidence and spreading of disease.")

If you don't shower for too long, you start to itch and you'll probably have more acne and foot fungus (provided that your showers are fungus free of course).

Sources? (I can imagine that wearing shoes without showering makes you grow fungi. Going barefoot most of the time should solve that problem. Or just washing your feet with cold water.)

Also since when was acne caused by not taking a shower?

It you are prone to acne, keeping your skin clean reduces outbreaks by keeping your pores clear.

Your skin did not face an every day destruction of its microbe and oil film in its evolution, and may react strangely, including with acne.

Anyway, I'd like to see some statistics, because we can both come up with arguments like that for as long as we like.

Unhygienic as in smegma.

nitpick: melodiousness != malodourousness

I think I'd love to be surrounded by negligent melodiousness, it sounds delightful.

good call, thank you.

> Negligent melodiousness

Malodorousness, perhaps?

yes, yes, you are correct, thanks.

100 years ago, the practice of bathing once or twice per day would seem luxurious if not wasteful.

now !== then

Which language uses !== instead of != ?

PHP. The !== checks for equality and for type. For example, it is true in PHP that 0 == false, but it is also true that 0 !== false.

Also Javascript: https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Core_JavaScript_1.5_Referen...

Correct.

But given that now and then are both of type Temporal, he should still go for !=.

There are coding style guides that advocate using the strict operators everywhere it makes sense. http://javascript.crockford.com/code.html

Ah, sorry, I read it as "equality of type".

It's strict not equal in JavaScript. 'Returns true if the operands are not equal and/or not of the same type.'

'==' and '!=' are coercive in JavaScript -- as in:

    5 == "5" -> true

    5 != "5" -> false

    5 === "5" -> false

    5 !== "5" -> true

His point seems to be that nothing fundamental has changed except for people's expectations. People being slightly more odiferous has never been a showstopper before.

And you say it's unhygenic... there's nothing dangerous about not showering daily. It's purely an aesthetic thing. I do it for that reason, but I don't kid myself about its necessity.

Fundamentally, people's expectations have changed. Context, as always, is king.

And in many parts of the world, you can relive that experience.

here !== there

As if there's a single `here' on HN.

myHere !== yourHere

You could make that 30-40 years ago in much of the world outside of North America. My parents certainly believed that was a crazy indulgence back in the 80s. They have since tempered (though I still think twice a day is ridiculous unless you really need it after labor/exercise).

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