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I don't know much about the team behind Cyanogen, i just know i love it and don't want it to die but it looks like management is starting to make some silly calls. I'm definitely getting that abandon ship feeling I've learned to trust over the years. Are there similar projects worth looking into? Ill go back to my Nokia 8210 before i go back to vendor controlled Android.

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Their management had a huge fiasco in India a couple of years ago. They already had an exclusive deal to sell Cyanogen branded phones with One Plus earlier, and they broke it and made another deal with Micromax company overnight. There was a large shitstorm in the android and open source world, and Cyanogen's image had suffered.

I have had CyanogenMod on my phones for the past few years of nightlies. I am sad they are dissolving. Other roms I liked:

http://en.miui.com has some nice UX

http://paranoidandroid.co is nice if you want security

http://aokp.co has been around for years and stays cutting edge

As you've been using nightly builds, you haven't been using Cyanogen, but been running Cyanogenmod. CyanogenOS is closed source fork of Cyanogenmod. Available for only certain devices. That means that Cyanogenmod is actually a good alternative to Cyanogen

Ah, correct. I have been using Cyanogenmod, not CyanogenOS. I will update my post.

Nothing about paranoid android was security oriented to my memory. They used to have some cool features like HOLO and dynamic DPI switching, but basically lost all of that as android versions came out and they didn't keep up.

Paranoid Android has NO additional security mechanisms over AOSP. It's based on CM with added UI/UX features. The name is not indicative of the type of ROM it is.

CopperheadOS is what you want if you're concerned about security.

Ahh, well that is a disappointing name. Thanks for the correction.

To be honest, you should probably not recommend something as secure if you have not fact-checked to make sure that the thing you have recommended actually emphasizes security at a minimum.

While I am happy Copperhead OS is around, it only supports a very limited set of Nexus devices. Back in the pre-Signal days Open Whisper Systems started their own work on an Android fork called WhisperCore. I'm curious if any of the features from WhisperCore ever made it into a new ROM, or if it was all quietly abandoned.

It was all abandoned, but many similar features made it into CM. Things like separating the seeding passphrase/PIN/pattern for FDE from the lockscreen and lockscreen PIN randomization were once features in CyanogenMod.

The former, FDE key separation, feature is gone and you'll need to either use adb or a 3rd party application [0] to achieve it.

It shouldn't be too hard to pull kernel patches from CopperheadOS and apply it to a clean AOSP tree for different devices -- this is obviously after they have done all the heavy lifting.

0. https://github.com/xmikos/SnooperStopper

You shouldn't need the whole tree for kernel patches.

AOKP hasn't released anything tangible in years. It's sad too, since they were one of my favorite ROMs back in KitKat.

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