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I worked in finance sales for about 3 years. Bonuses are fun but I have seen a lot of misconduct in the pursuit of a bonus. Maybe its just banking...

I'm all for the no tipping and i happily work without a bonus. And i would expect other to as well. If you can't show up and be consistent in performance without a carrot then thats maybe not a great reflection of how you work and what you value.

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> Bonuses are fun but I have seen a lot of misconduct in the pursuit of a bonus. Maybe its just banking...

It's not just banking. I was horrified at some of the behavior I saw from the sales folks at a software start-up I worked for (including the CEO). As a sales lifer, our CEO came up with some pretty generous comp packages for the sales team that promoted bad behavior and short-term "wins" that the rest of us would be cleaning up for months.

I agree with this so much. Because of strict regulations, non-financial sales is infinitely worse than anything you'll see in finance.

> I worked in finance sales for about 3 years. Bonuses are fun

I think this should be obligatory link in all bonus related discussions:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6XAPnuFjJc

My values at work are to get paid. I think that's why most people work instead of doing their hobbies all day. The carrot is payment. Nothing wrong with that.

Is your bonus based on predefined criteria? Do you negotiate it ahead of working, or after the fact? Does your skin colour, sex, how you dress affect your bonus?

> Does your skin colour, sex, how you dress affect your bonus?

I am not aware of a study on this, but I would bet my annual income that those factors affect your bonus.

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