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I think a .org is a bad idea. I know you are getting it for the exact match bonus, but noone clicks .org expecting to pay. Most people will probably just think you are an organization of appointment reminders

Here are a few available .net/.com domains that you can get now, w/ # of exact match searches per month:

appointmentletter.net - 9,900

appointmentcard.net - 1,000

salonappointmentbook.com/.net - 1,000

appointmentremindersoftware.net - 1,000

appointmentletters.net - 880

appointmentpower.net - 880

salonappointmentsoftware.com/.net - 880

appointmentreminderservice.net - 880

onlineappointmentscheduler.net - 880

appointmentsystem.net - 720

appointmentbooksoftware.net - 590

automatedappointmentreminder.com/.net - 390

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no one clicks .org expecting to pay

The next time you get a haircut, can you do me a favor? Ask your stylist "What is a domain name?" and "What is the difference between dot com and dot O R G?"

I deal with this level of computer literacy every day, and you're right. However -- as I'm sure you know already -- a lot of people "go to" websites by typing something similar to the website's name into Google or, these days, Bing (curse them).

But you've written some pretty great stuff on SEO, so this is just for the benefit of anyone else reading this. :-)

Try naming 10-20 commercial websites(sites actually selling things) that are successful on a .org domain name. Can't? There is probably a reason for that.

It's not hairdressers you need to worry about, it's Google...who simply won't rank you in top positions.

It's not hairdressers you need to worry about, it's Google...who simply won't rank you in top positions.

Like saying there is carbon in a water molecule, this is simply not correct. com, net, and org domains all get the exact match bonus in the US, and orgs are not noticeably weaker than coms given equivalent link equity.

how many .net and .org websites have you launched? A .com gets a HUGE bonus over those.

A .com with 0 link building will almost always start off on page 1 or 2. Even for a competitive keyword, at worst you are looking at page 3.

A .net or .org will usually start off on page 40.

After 2-3 weeks of link building, with a .com you are looking at a top 3 position. With a .org, after 2-3 weeks of link building you'll be lucky to climb up to page 2.

A .com will always be king, it's the most valuable domain name for a reason.

Here's a quick disproof of your hypothesis. Find travelblog.com (singular) on the first page of this query:

http://www.google.com/search?q=travel+blog

Now find travelblog.org on that page.

bad example, the travelblog.com is a british site.

Go search for travelblog on google.co.uk, and it's in the top 3 position.

And sure travelblog.org is #1 there too, but the .org is a PR6 website, while the .com is a PR4 website. That's orders of magnitude higher.

No, it's a good example, for all the reasons you state.

The fact that a .com often ranks higher than its .org equivalent has nothing to do with it being a .com, but rather that its owners have done a better job of building it into a relevant site. You're seeing correlation, but not causation. As you correctly observe, PageRank and other SEO factors are the important thing.

Here are a few more examples of the same principle in action:

http://www.google.com/search?q=wikipedia http://www.google.com/search?q=slashdot http://www.google.com/search?q=php

it has everything to do with a .com.

Same SEO methods on a .com and .net, will always have .com beating out the .net.

All those examples you give, there is no competition, those are BRANDS that choose to reside on a .net/.org domains, there is no wikipedia.com trying to outrank the .org.

We are not talking about brands here. We are talking about keyword centric domains that are targeting keywords people actually search for. So to give you an example, you should be trying to find a bluewidgets.org that outranks a bluewidgets.com, where bluewidgets.org has the same or lower page rank.

You are right, do not mind the downmods.

Simple experiment, buy these three domains:

hgjhsushrdksjhfkshfkshf.com hgjhsushrdksjhfkshfkshf.org hgjhsushrdksjhfkshfkshf.net

Link them on a single page somewhere, wait Google to index it, and search for "hgjhsushrdksjhfkshfkshf". What tld will Google show first?

But if the .org or .net have a couple good links from somewhere else, they will rank higher. So, you're right on your pure domain keyword ranking, but I am from the opinion that it doesn't matter if you're going to use additional SEO techniques.

To whoever is downmodding this guy: Please stop. His post is neither inflammatory or offensive. If you disagree with what he's said, say so in a comment (with explanation as to why). Don't downvote just because you disagree.

I used to buy celebrity domain names and create "fan" pages. And this is not true.

.com .net .org worked equally well in getting ranked for the keywords in that domain.

A lot more people buy .com domains. So we see a lot more .com rankings higher up in the search engines.

But as far as my personal tests and experiences show, keyword.org will work as well as keyword.com in getting ranked if the same amount of link building is done for both of them.

The only downside of a .org is - if you plan to sell the site or the domain, a .org gets a lower price than a .com. But from search engine point of view, both work equally well.

No offense, but you just don't know what you're talking about mate.

Or, for a shorter, more "brandable" approach:

- Remindery.com (available) - Appointmently.com (available) - Appointmentize.com (available)

Ah yes, the modern, standard way of constructing a .com that's still available:

<name-you-actually-want>ly.com or get<name-you-actually-want>.com

I kind of like Remindery though :)

The Remindery.

Wine from a winery, reminders from the remindery.

diction from the dictionary

... which informs me that medieval Europeans did not expect chicken from a chicanery. Drats.

How 'bout plain old remindr.org? That's available. :p

I dont think .org will be so bad here. I think seeing the words appointment+reminder will be enough for them. Plus they are going to see the description which will likely have good copy.

how did you get these with the exact searches per month?

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