Comment by pjc50 | Hacker News Reader

Comment by pjc50 | Hacker News Reader

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I refer people to my previous comments on the politics of immigration, where people pretty much admit that it's not about immigration status (which you can't see) but ethnicity (which you can). https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13470571

There are real economic problems, and the press have been quite effective at blaming them on immigration when really they're more due to inequality.

> Trump succeeds and does a good job

Succeeds for whom? Different people want very different things, that's where politics comes from in the first place. What would "success" look like? How much global warming does it include?

For some Americans, the executive order banning entry for a list of nationalities means that their spouses can never leave the country again and are at greatly increased risk of being deported.

(There's a similar argument happening in the UK where "success" for some people means unemployment for others, or even being obliged to leave the country)

Having joined in that discussion where it became clear that you didn't even know the meaning of the word immigrant, you didn't listen to what we said and now you're projecting your own prejudices on other people.

And falling back on calling everyone a racist again.

Which is precisely what this article says doesn't work.

Yeah, his whole argument can be boiled down to, "No but seriously they're racist you should ignore them."

people pretty much admit that it's not about immigration status ... but ethnicity

That's a nice way of saying "everyone admitted they're racists".

No-one in that thread did.

The most ridiculous thing about all this is that I actually come from a white immigrant community (dutch around a port town), but my generation acculturised with the UK.

It really sticks in your craw when I'm generally a left-leaning liberalist but some tit like pjc50 starts accusing you of being a racist because I've been in supermarkets obviously filled with white immigrants as they're all speaking polish.

It really has helped me realise how devoid of empathy people who start accusing everyone of racism for merely discussing immigration are.

It's incredibly upsetting to be called a racist merely for asking why mass migration to the UK has been allowed. It's a perfectly reasonable question.

Also he really doesn't understand the meaning of the word immigrant, see https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13471112

Just to clarify: a white person in a supermarket speaking Polish is necessarily an immigrant?

The point of that discussion was that everyone had plenty of opportunity to say what exactly the problem was with immigrants, other than that they have a different ethnicity and language. They didn't.

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