in Europe, having guns widely dispersed throughout society would be considered about as expensive as it gets (and far more likely to kill the patient than offer a potential cure under very particular and exceptional conditions)
in Europe, having guns widely dispersed throughout society would be considered about as expensive as it gets (and far more likely to kill the patient than offer a potential cure under very particular and exceptional conditions)
In Europe a number of countries has and has had guns widely dispersed throughout society since forever. A number of those countries are - and have used to be - very peaceful.
Source: Grew up in Europe. Could disassemble an assault rifle since I was a teenager (my father was assigned one as part of extended draft and kept that and a number of rounds at home. At some point he showed me since I was interested. He also used the opportunity to tell me how grateful I should be for peace and how he hoped he would never have to use it for real).
>> In Europe a number of countries has and has had guns widely dispersed throughout society since forever.
> Gun ownership and gun deaths are minimal in Europe compared to the US.
I think you are moving the goal posts.
I assumed it was obvious I was referring to quantity of guns in a society rather how far apart these guns were actually placed.
Also, there are many things significantly more dangerous than guns. Should we ban those things too? If not, why not?
https://www.chrisstucchio.com/blog/2016/are_gays_or_guns_mor...
I'm aware that Europeans have their own unique culture with their own unique unsupported assumptions and myths. That's not really a substitute for evidence.
Also, you dodged the question of whether we should ban other things that are vastly more dangerous than guns. Weird.
That is not good form.
We are trying to argue against you in good faith but I must admit I find it frustrating.
Edit:
FWIW, here is some more data: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_firearm...
Well the numbers are overwhelmingly against you and a smart person would stop digging.
Your own figures show that the US is off the charts compared to EU on a) gun ownership b) gun deaths - it's a no brainer and therefore no useful debate on the merits/demerits. (I'm not going to get into US politics and it's really up to them if they want to have more deaths, but even they fall back on 2nd amendment and notions of tradition to try and justify gun ownership.)
> That is not good form.
Form fits the circumstances I'm afraid.