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I prefer to nag people to not use shorteners at all if you're not on Twitter. I don't know if it works, but I feel that it's a habit that needs to stop.

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I also wish Twitter would allow 1 link per tweet as part of the tweet's general metadata and not count it in the characters restriction.

Shortened links are annoying and misleading, I've been wasting too much time clicking links I've seen already and links to sites I just don't like.

In your suggestion you fail to consider what prompted the 140 char restriction. The source of that restriction was that tweeter wanted the main source of tweets to be mobiles, using SMS. Now we can argue that they can allow people posting from the web to add some metadata but that would result in the inconsistency between the web and mobile protocols.

I think that nowdays the 140 char restriction is for keeping Twitter clean and readable, making it harder on the writer and easier on the reader - links are not hard to read and therefore there is no reason to restrict their length.

Also, users who actually use Twitter via SMS would probably not be capable of viewing the link anyhow so it could just say "(+lnk)" or something.

I used to manually type bit.ly links in from a tweet via SMS all the time. I didn't have a smartphone until a few weeks ago, and it was easier than opening twitter, typing in my password, finding the person's tweet, and clicking on it.

Another possible solution - having the URL shortened by Twitter when sending to SMS users.

It's true. Overall, I feel like Twitter is better this way. Constraints force you to be creative.

How much of that is because of how terrible twitter's visibility into older tweets and search functionality is?

Not that much. Typing basically 8 characters is easier than navigating, but I am one of those vim guys...

SMS has 140 bytes but not chars restrictions. When you use non-english letters you could not send 140 chars in one SMS. But you can use any 140 chars in Twitter.

So one to one mapping to SMS is not possible now.

When I enter SMS bigger then 140 bytes it's splitted transperently and the only consequence is increased payment for that SMS.

This will be possible when the new annotations API is live.

Eh, many links to say, google maps are HUGE without, and get mangled by comment engines.

Unfortunately, nagging about shorteners seems to work on average surfers, posters about as well as a teetotaler's sermon to an alcoholic.

And thus uber-shortening will probably continue until someone develops alternative processes that are ~sexier~

Sexier? Like http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperlinks?

or sexier? Like http://bit.ly/rr

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