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Wanted to try it, but no, I am not going to sign up for a super exclusive alpha that requires my email address.

So... You're trusting it with all your filesystem but not your email?

I trust that the program I download right now won't do anything malicious with my files.

I don't trust that the organization, or whoever it gets sold to in the future, won't try to monetize my email address, from now until forever.

No, that's actually an indicator. If the DMG is email-walled, how much data the app will track once installed on my machine?

To be honest, the initial launch of Marta was an important lesson for me. I started with a closed alpha so I could fix the critical bugs until it will become open for everyone – not because I want everyone's emails to send some shitty spam. But lots of people disagreed with me, and I understand them.

I changed some of my plans. Marta will become open much earlier, maybe even the next week. Sorry for the inconvenience.

Thank you for a reply and best wishes to your project!

Well, it's your decision. By the way, if you ping me on Twitter (yanex_ru), I can send you the direct link to DMG via a DM.

Going to try to get it into Home-brew?

Homebrew is not suited well for DMG package distribution (well, at least I don't know examples of such software). But you can install Marta just as any another macOS GUI software.

Homebrew has the Caskroom, which would work:

https://github.com/caskroom/homebrew-cask

EDIT: details on how to add your own Cask for an app:

https://github.com/caskroom/homebrew-cask/blob/master/doc/de...

Thank you! I'll investigate it.

Well, I just read about powers of VK moderators on Habr and got more convinced that I need Little Snitch or something similar for my desktop apps for sure.

Just if it was not clear: my email is public on many services. I just think that if you require my email to get the installer, how much logging/tracking code will you run once you're on my machine?

I'm not affiliated with VK moderators in any manner. It's their own business.

I know it's all about trust, but Marta doesn't have any tracking code, and never will. Trust is much more important that any statistics.

https://www.guerrillamail.com/

Agreed, this complete puts me off too. Was initially interested but that evaporates with having to register.

I could send you the direct link via Twitter DMs (yanex_ru) or via an email (me@yanex[at]org).

That will again require a Twitter handle or Email.

It's the same with me. If I am using a really early stage app and actually helping with testing it the last thing I would want to do is to pretty much sign up for it with my email unless I desperately need that app.

>I could send you the direct link via Twitter DMs (yanex_ru) or via an email (me@yanex[at]org).

You need to freely provide the download. No one is going to give you their email address to download what should be an open source project.

I get the email thing but "should be an open source project"?

Closed alpha allows me to fix the critical bugs until Marta will be available freely. It's not about a subscription to some shitty weekly newspaper. I already got the valuable feedback from alpha users.

But I completely understand you. I hope Marta will be available for everyone quite soon (maybe at the time of 0.2).

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