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The tip jar has to be the laziest of all the business models out there.

And yet how many of us waiters, waitresses, bartenders, baristas, cashiers, valets, etc have paid the bills because of the gratitude of others. It can work, especially when combined with social pressure to do so.

It works, but neither party likes it. If tipping can be avoided, it will be. Ex: UBER

Uber made tipping even more awkward by not allowing it in app but allowing drivers to harass people for tips.

really? I've used uber a lot and I've never had anyone harass me for tips.

Depends on the area, but in tourist-heavy places, drivers can be very aggressive. Not to say every driver is bad, but it does seem a good majority will have at least a sign or sticker asking for tips.

I hate that Uber does not allow you to tip. I have had drivers who deserve way more than what they give them, and then I've had some drivers who deserve to have their licenses revoked. When I learned that Lyft allows you to specify a tip, I switched in an instant. Never missed Uber.

I've had no problem with any uber driver taking a small cash tip. $1-3 is always appreciated by them.

Right, but then you have to have cash.

I wanted to switch to Lyft but stuck with Uber when I found out that Lyft has a tip option. It's not that they aren't great or deserve more money, it's just that I don't want to be a party to their employment arrangement. I really dislike tipping and would prefer that the product be priced correctly to begin with. I still do so as social protocol dictates, but eliminating the exchange of money entirely is probably the most valuable thing Uber provides for me.

> I really dislike tipping and would prefer that the product be priced correctly to begin with.

I disagree with this in part -- I will agree with you that most of these people deserve to be paid more regardless, but I disagree in the sense that they all be paid uniformly. Better service should get a better tip. If that's priced in, I have no choice in the matter, I am paying the same price for subpar or lackluster service. This would make me change services as a whole rather than just chalk it up to I had a bad driver. Allowing me to tip based on the level of service I receive is a form of recourse for the customer in the event of a terrible experience. It's also an incentive to the driver to perform better.

I feel like it's being abused now. For instance, I always tip but felt betrayed when another waiter charged tip without even asking, and I was eating alone. I stopped going there.

Where does putting a paywall in front of your content fall on your laziness ranking?

Very low.

Paywalls are absolutely fair game to me. I have been a long time subscriber of giantbomb.com and wish more makers go that route.

Not at all. Asking money for your work isn't lazy. It's how the entire rest of the world works. It's how you're able to afford the ability to comment on this website.

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