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Why is Haskell used so little in the industry?

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I couldn't remember the name of this troll, so I googled for "flying frog troll", and sure enough, John Harrop's name came up as the first link!! :)

This guy has tried trolling Scala, Common Lisp, and who knows what else, all in the interest of clearing out possible competitors for OCaml and F#, which his own consulting group uses and advocates.

Here is that link: http://coding.derkeiler.com/Archive/Lisp/comp.lang.lisp/2007...

Here is my very own personal opinion (disclosure: I am no rocket scientist, hadron collider ubber geek or startup mega marketeer, just a happy coder)

If I had a choice to pick a language for [em] web development [/em] I'd go with Javascript all the way from server to client to data to communication.

No, not the kind of node.js, something simpler. No, not the kind of rhino on top of java on top of appengine. Simpler I said.

There is a HUUUUGE market for that, and whether you like it or not (I am looking at you, old C developer) millions of web hobbyists like me will celebrate when that day comes.

i've thought the same for a while. end to end js. if you could ditch sql while you are at it that would be good, too.

Reminds me of Don Hopkins comments on NeWS at http://mailman.laptop.org/pipermail/sugar/2006-December/0010...

    The NeWS window system was like AJAX, but with:
    1) PostScript code instead of JavaScript code
    2) PostScript graphics instead of DHTML graphics, and
    3) PostScript data instead of XML data.

There are a lot of reasons why Haskell is not used in the industry that much, which would be the same reasons as why other functional languages are not used as much as their imperative counterparts. But this article is completely bullshit and nothing other than a personal attack on Haskell users and researchers.

the guy behind the linked blog has trolled pretty much every functional style programming language community that has more than 5 people (as other people note). any time spent even looking at his stuff is time you'll never recoup.

... because Java exists, Perl, Python, scriptable shells, Flash, etc.

And those things are used successfully. For something else (Haskell, or whathaveyou) to have a breakthrough, there's going to have to be a prominent success story or two (or three, etc).

We're seeing a big jump in Objective-C, for example, because it has been all-but forced by Apple. This is still a market driven phenomenon, even if you don't like how it gets done.

Auto-parallelization could do it.

Submitted just a few days ago already… the guy's just trolling.

Why was this submitted again? I responded when it was submitted 2 days ago ( http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1396763 ), and jrockway already did an excellent point-by-point rebuttal ( http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1396823 ).

I really don't want to read an idiot F# consultant's[1] view on how every language that isn't the one he uses is dumb.

[1] For reasonably diminished values of "consultant".

> Why was this submitted again?

Why? I only submitted this once. The first submitter may have deleted his submission. Actually, there is no way to know what that linked to for sure.

> jrockway already did an excellent point-by-point rebuttal

Quote: "Bad science: OK, I'm tired of reading this tripe now. (Next)"

Excellent rebuttal indeed. Who upvotes this?! I for one think "Bad Science" is spot on. It's a shame the taxpayers have to foot the bill.

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