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You mean hobbyist ? All the AAA games are still written in C++, none of the big studios is even considering to switch. Rust type system/restrictions would get into the way more than it would help in AAA game dev. Memory safety is not a problem in game development, they will just patch the bugs. Studios have whole ecosystems written in C++ that works for them. Benefits are really low compared to costs, that's why it's unlikely any major studio will switch any time soon.

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Type restrictions aren't really a problem, but in fact really helps out game development in the long run.

> Memory safety is not a problem in game development, they will just patch the bugs.

You must not have played any Bethesda titles. That said, there is much more to Rust than memory safety. That's just a side effect of the safe parallelism -- it's a minor story.

> Type restrictions aren't really a problem

Did you ever seen AAA game source code?

> You must not have played any Bethesda titles.

I've played. Most bugs I've seen were logic errors, doesn't matter which language you would pick.

This is just outright denial. Bethesda titles are rife with segmentation fault galore. Even their most recent titles suffer the same terrible CTDs as all of their previous titles.

I am talking from my experience, I do not recall any segfaults in fallout 4 and elder scrolls oblivion.

What? Cannot talk about Fallout 4 but Oblivion (and Skyrim and Morrowind) was full of CTDs bugs. Some of them are fixed in EngineBugFixes(http://www.nexusmods.com/oblivion/mods/47085/?) or the Oblivion Script Extender (as the SetLevel bug). Don't you know that the background SpeedTree laoder thread has a potential for a data race that can cause random CTDs in the Wilderness? Or the Corrupted SpwanPoints bug? Or calling GetAlarmed on a NPC without AI package. Or the internal heap manager with it's race conditions?

This is nonsense. I would love to use Rust in games (I currently work in games) but it's not clear that it would work out. That opinion is shared by game developers far more experienced and prominent than myself.

I (and I presume many others) would appreciate it if you would stop making grand, unfounded assertions about what Rust is good for. Games do make very different tradeoffs from most software- type and memory safety aren't an obvious, uncontested win there.

There's already a few games written in Rust on Steam's Greenlight program. SHAR was even greenlit. Stating that it isn't clear that it would work out is basically stating that you are choosing to ignore that it has and is being done successfully.

> stop making grand, unfounded assertions about what Rust is good for

You are basically stating that everything that I have done in Rust is a lie. I will not stand for that.

There are vast gulfs between Steam Greenlight candidates and AAA.

Nobody here, least of all me, has claimed that Rust cannot be used for any game at all, nor have they disputed your own experiences. Grow up.

You clearly don't read what you write.

> I would love to use Rust in games (I currently work in games) but it's not clear that it would work out.

There are many contradictions in your posts on here.

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