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The techempower Benchmarks are related to ASP.NET core, that one you can use on Desktop too.

The coreclr is only maybe 10-15% faster than Desktop, but not a magnitude or more compared to old ASP.net.

I don't think that the clr is slower than the jvm, but quite a few basic frameworks are compared to their Java counterparts

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Look at the older techempower benchmarks where they include the regular .NET framework. It's slow as hell compared to java.

And yes that's the problem. The CLR itself probably isn't slower than JVM but most of the .NET stack is. It just wasn't written with performance in mind.

> The CLR itself probably isn't slower than JVM but most of the .NET stack is. It just wasn't written with performance in mind.

I don't really think that's true.

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