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Indeed, the term lobbying was used twice and has bad connotations (as well as being inaccurate).

Since when was it anti-$ETHNIC_GROUP to talk about an $ETHNIC_GROUP's lobby? Do you accuse people of being "inaccurate" if they mention the China lobby?

Please stop taking this thread (or any HN thread) further into flamewar hell. We've asked you before not to do this.

In that case, just ban me. I've also asked before. As long as I can still post here, I will occasionally debate with people when they take contentious positions I disagree with (esp when they make accusations).

I'm not flaming, and you know it. Nonetheless, if you think I'm a problem, just ban me and the problem will be solved. I don't want to be in a place where politics is totally OK to discuss until it's not for arbitrary reasons I can't guess or predict.

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